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    Just saw this video about the "ice man" and the idea behind cold expoure, breath, mind-control and self healing

    Very Inspiring!

    the goop lab with Gwyneth Paltrow | Netflix Official Site

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    Update.

    Hi Guys! So almost a week of refeeding and have only good things to say about fasting, the benefits are notable! I lost 5Kg and reegain 4Kg by now, firts days more fruit and now more vegetables, bonebroth and meat. In my opinion, if someone has the chance of doing water fast, there is no reason to choose for juice feast. The juice will keep the nutrition of the body and disturb the autophagy process, slowing the organism recovery...so I don't see as a wise decision. Anyway, after three days of refeeding I could notice my face's pores smaller and the bloater almost gone. The sunken eyes still remain but with a more improved expression, not tired anymore, maybe it get better with more fasts (mine was only 6 days).

    I'm not taking any suplements besides the Herbs. I got Spirulina, Chlorella, Gaba, Melatonin, Ginko, etc. But since i'm affraid of mixing too much things, I rather use nothing. So far so good. From what i've been reading, maybe the complex B would be a good decision to introduce. The workout is doing good, I started lifting wheigts three days ago, more light than before the fast and it was ok. The mood in general is ok. I know maybe I'm sounding too much positive, but was has concerned me since the first moment of this whole process was the sexual sides, I suffered from many symptoms during the 2 crashes that I went through (I remember one day at work, I felt like i was in a western movie, hot, dry, tired, surreal, and understanding nothing, was like a dream). I don't know if is the diet, but i'm ok from mental sides by now, the sleep is good and no brain fog (I got scared of eating/drinking shit and than get fucked, so i'm doing it straight). Yesterday I ate some chocolate and had anxiety for an hour or so, nothin heavy. Besides all of this, sexual sides still sucks!!! No random boner, no aggressiveness, no impulse, no arousing from visual stimulus. The only time that I get an erection is when i'm sleeping, this is something strange....when i'm off, my dick is on, and when i'm on, my dick is off. If you guys know why this happen I would like to know so. Another thing to point and question is the amount of semen, I know i'm supouse to nofap but once a week (just once XD) i'm allowing myself, and what I see is that the semen production, besides not being whatery, is comming in a "demo version". I know I know this is something that everybody in this condition deals with and there is nothing new here. My point (or theory) is, the semen is one of the most complex proteins that our body produces, and so, when it starts to produce the "normal" amount again is when we recover from the sexual sides. Since you are not producing semen, there is no reason for the body to send you sexual instincts. Maybe you guys can contribute with some information...

    Besides that, I haven't noticed anything with the herbs yet, nothing good, nothing bad, but come on, I'm on this for less than a week! so i don't have nothing about to complain.
    Peace Guys!

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    Update. [on covid times]

    Diet: One of my intentions when I heard I would stay at home was fasting again, as long as I could. Fasted for 3 days then, and broke it eating like a Dinosaur (lack of willpower XD). At least I'm keeping my diet, and going only with paleo/healthy foods. One thing to point: Paleo covers a big range of foods, I think some may help more than others. Until now, from my experience and reading I can set in order of benefit: 1.Leafs / 2.Raw Vegetables (low carb) / 3.Ghee / 4.Bone Broth / 5.Meat / 6.Nuts / 7.Papaya (with seeds) / 8.Home made Kefir. This is the top 8 of my diet. As I'm becoming better, I'm alowing my self to eat more high glimecic fruits (mango, watermellon, banana and even dry fruits which is highly sweet). I don't know how much going from meat/leafs/fat to suggar(even fructose) is a bad idea, I'm steel testing, but I would say the more we can stay away from any kinds of suggar the better.

    I'm here today to post my blood test evolution. Since I crashed I've done 2 blood tests in a 3 months interval - the 2nd test was much more complete. From what is comparable between the two ones, I'm only getting better. In green is whats really matter. In yellow, what matter and is out of range. In white...fuck.

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    Analysis:
    1) My Testosterone went from 254 to 660 in 3 months!!! I give this to diet + exercise + herbs and also more time interval to the crash episode. If this continues going up and up, what are the risks?
    2) My DHT is in the top of range (79), unfortunately I didn´t have it tested before on the 1st exam. What I can say is that it doesn't mean I'm cured, despite feeling much better than 3 months ago...next section I'll talk about symptoms.
    3) My prolactine went from 6 to 9, I'm assuming that it is following the Testosterne incresase - so it's ok.
    4) My DHEA-s is higher than the range, should I try to lower it? I read that it could increase my estrogen levels.

    Any other comments would be much appreciated

    I read a lot here about ups and downswigns, but from what I can notice, this is very subtle with me. Since I begin the protocol I'm leaving a much healthier life, I could set away my crash symptoms, and, in my last month, PFS was not a heavy stone that I carry everywhere I go. I established a selfcure mindset, reading, meditating a lot and caring about my wellbeign as never before, all this made a big difference oh how I look to all of this. The fear of PFS and the hope of the protocol made me change my living. I don't notice any mind/neurological issues, so my ups and downs comes down to physiological things. (nobody is happy and euforic all the time, this is part of life, so we cannot blame PFS for everything negative that happens in our day by day).

    About my symptoms:
    - I'm beggining to sweat again, but only after 13 minutes runnig, I think my normal would be start sweating after 7-8 minutes.
    - There's weeks than I can sleep all night long, then the next week I start waking up at 4am, and it continues with a light sleep until the morning. (this is the most noticeable ups and downs that vary)
    - I'm getting more in shape, but with a slow muscle increase and leaping veins
    - The erections is now easier to appear and to mantain, but it does't happen spontaneously, and I'm still missing that sexual animal urge, although I have some. This libido thing is another topic that can vary from day to day. Sorry to guys that I've read here before, but I wan't my overwhelming libido back.
    - I really don't know about my gut, since I'm going straight on my diet, I don't know what would happen if I take a weekend of heavy booze or mcdonald's, until now my poop is beautiful hahaha.

    About DHT: Obviously high levels of DHT does't mean PFS cure and I don't have a theory about this. All I can say is that even your body being able to produce DHT through 5AR (new ones or old ones) there's something about neurological connection that goes slowling restoring itself (if you go the right path). And that's what brings us back and beyond pre PFS state.

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    GLUTEN EPISODE

    Just a quick update here.
    I’ve been doing very well in the last past weeks. Just keeping on protocol: Diet as I said on my last post, sun everyday it’s possible, cold shower with skin brushing and bathmate, meditation and exercise (lower now on covid times, but keeping) and herbs (finally my LEH herbs arrived and I’m comparing them with the Brazilian ones that I got first place - some are extremely different but some like cordyceps seems the same, which comforted me some way). Could be doing a better job on breath exercises, but ok. My confident came back to the point I’m chasing and having sex again, maintaining erection with good sensibility (I have a response of my lower part when I need, although it seems a little lazy for spontaneous boner, visual arousing, and morning woods - but when I’m in a hot chat with a girl it never fails). Sleep has improved as well, taking some all night rest by now.

    As I was feeling this good I was cheating a little on diet, eating some chocolate here and some dried fruits (high glycemic) there - and the body’s addiction start once again to be feeded by sweet shit - not good, because it starts to want more and more...and last night I fucked up some of my progress eating 3 slices of pizza, yes friends, my body had a gluten bomb by the time of almost forgetting what was that. Result during this day: Insomnia, no nocturnal erection, inconsistency stool, fatigue, brain fog, and to settle things down, I felt depressed during all the day.

    Conclusion: until you consider yourself recovered, don’t ever touch gluten (and once recovered, avoid it as long as you can)

    To get out of this I’m current: drinking lots of water, green juice, kefir, probiotic, salad and meat. Even consider another short waterfast but haven’t done.

    In my opinion, PFS do has a portion of psychological/mind root (despite all the physical imbalances that I consider the biggest part) . But as your body starts healing, everything goes with the flow.

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    DOWNSWING

    Last week got out of protocol line: pizza, a bottle of wine, a cigarette, and 2 hits in a joint. As if a knew, but how much of this thing can ruin a 4 month progress? I don’t think so. By now, my libido that was almost fine in the past weeks seem to be like in the beginning of my protocol jump in. I like to think that’s my body thanking care of the shit I put in to reach my baseline again. I was not far as I though to deal with this toxins...PFS is a box of surprises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mineiro-up View Post
    DOWNSWING

    Last week got out of protocol line: pizza, a bottle of wine, a cigarette, and 2 hits in a joint. As if a knew, but how much of this thing can ruin a 4 month progress? I don’t think so. By now, my libido that was almost fine in the past weeks seem to be like in the beginning of my protocol jump in. I like to think that’s my body thanking care of the shit I put in to reach my baseline again. I was not far as I though to deal with this toxins...PFS is a box of surprises.
    My man, I wouldn’t necessarily call drinking wine and hitting joints and smokes to be a box of surprises. I’ve been sober for 7 months and my neurological symptoms have BARELY improved. I’d stay clean until you heal, your body doesn’t want to deal with that stuff right now. If you want to indulge I’d recommend buying some healthy-ish ice cream or something, try and avoid the mind altering stuff for now.

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    Thanks man!! Totally agree, let’s stay vigilant! And congrats for you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mineiro-up View Post
    Thanks man!! Totally agree, let’s stay vigilant! And congrats for you!!!
    I know you don't know me, but please, take it from me, someone who LOVED getting twisted as much as the next guy.....all it does is set you back, unfortunately....you put the time in now, and in the near future you can indulge ALL YOU WANT and you'll be fine. Dude....just take your lumps up front. Things will go so much faster for you.
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    JUNE UPDATE

    SOME POSITIVE VIBRATION

    Hi fellas!!...just doing an update while not in an up or downswing, when our emotions tend to distorce things. Today I’m feeling perfectly “normal”, just want to report how things are going after this last 6 months.

    I’m 100% used do TMO by now. I do like my diet, I don’t feel urge for sugar or shitty food...never thought I’d say that but I love salad! And I know how to prepare a fckin taste bonebroth!! Bizarre how your body can adapt to things...

    I started my 1st cycle of AndroHard this week. With my last downswing about 1,5 month ago I ordered AH and while things was getting better I knew it would take a month or so to arrive here in Brazil I was not anxious about that...I do love herbs rotation anyway....fact is AH arrived last week and I said: why not !?!? So I’m current on my 4th day of cycling. I’m feeling very well, must say. 1st day I felt like a beast, and worked out like a beast, by now I’m “only” feeling very good, calm, energetic, I don’t wanna say it’s only because of AH, I changed my life and that’s why....also my skin is healthier, a saw that on reviews, AH is very good for skin. Let’s see how things will go through the cycle...I think I’m doing the whole month only from day 1 to 30 (opinions on this?). The only thing got worst was my sleep, I was sleeping whole non stopping night and in this 3 days woke up in the middle of night, even thirsty, not anxious, not racing heart...I’m still watching this...

    I started the protocol very focused on diet, exercise and herbs. In a second moment I became aware of the fasting importance. I know about the blind faith of TMO, and I agree, but how this CD guy 🤣 could put togheter so many important things? And there I go studying things, studying about fasting, what doest it do to your body...autophagy, histones, senescent cells, fuck!! I would never know this in a lifetime if wasn’t for PFS. And by now, wim hof method is being life changing for me (hold your breath and Get high on your own supply!!!)...doing this and studying this process plus all other stuff together has totally made a difference in my life. Must say the lockdown has also been a bless for me, I’m able to be totally focused on my heal and not worried about social contact hahahah (I’m even dating a girl - just remember Ricky, that said he fucked more girls on PFS than ever before. I don’t give up on this department either, should be included on the protocol! &#129315

    About how far I’m on this journey...I really don’t know. And I finally got this is a marathon, for real!!! while you are not fully committed you will never understand that. All I know is that I’m feeling good. What intrigues me most on this process is the dynamics of the ups and downs, like, how and why this happens? With PFS I learned to watch my body. Before this I used to have a lot of inflammations that I never gave a fuck, by now I don’t say a goodbye to my stool in the toilet before I give a good look on them. And also aways had some minor skin problems that simply gone away...

    As I got used to the ups and downs I’m just relaxed whenever I wake up in the middle of the night, or don’t get a morning wood, or get more time to get hard as I was pre PFS, or don’t sweat as much as I would like.....I know with time things going taking place.

    And to finish all this bullshit philosophy (🤣 not so bullshit), one last advice: don’t fool yourself with porn. If you are a PFS guy and you are able to get a boner on porn, good for you. But this is far away different from being with a real woman. I think after we crash we have to RE-learn some things. The body forgot simple things that was automatic before, like seeing a round butt on the street and get hard, but when you first learned that, was upon a natural process, not with porn, and IMO you have to track that way once again, naturally, not over stimulating with online dopamine. But that’s just my opinion.

    Be cool guys!! Thank you all for all the sharing.

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