Ultra hard/Pumping

[Revy]

Hi been a pfs sufferer for 8 years. Was a lurker on the pfs forum and now have been lurking on this site since late November. I’ve tried many things such as Clomid, 14 day water fast, herb cycling, ihatepropecia protocol, pelvic floor therapy, and Hcg. Would always have a slight improvement then a drop. The only improvement that I have had stick is my hormone levels. When I first got pfs my t levels were a measly 350. Now I’m around 750. My dht was actually above the scale at 64. My levels have gone pretty much gotten to a good spot, but I still have sexual sides all the same. Erectile dysfunction, libido, atrophied testicles and penis. Anyways I started the protocol in the beginning of December. I was coming off a 3 months of hcg which didn’t do anything. Started with a 7 day juice fast and have been cycling 7 herbs, taking pine pollen everyday, spiriluna/chlorella daily, digestive enzymes, pregnelone, probiotics daily, paleo diet(are potatoes ok?), cold showers, change of soaps etc. I had some improvement getting morning wood daily and more response when I think of sex. Lately it seems to have dropped though the past few weeks. So I got my first bottle of ultra hard and I’m not sure where to apply it. It’s shows on the bottle the stomach area/chest, but I thought we had to put it on our scrotum. Also I know on the website it’s says pumping is safe with the bath mate, but I’m afraid to damage myself and make things worse. Any tips/reassurance and noted benefits would be great as I would like to of course add that since it’s part of the protocol. Thanks, sorry for the long post.

[Cdsnuts]

Hi been a pfs sufferer for 8 years. Was a lurker on the pfs forum and now have been lurking on this site since late November. I’ve tried many things such as Clomid, 14 day water fast, herb cycling, ihatepropecia protocol, pelvic floor therapy, and Hcg. Would always have a slight improvement then a drop. The only improvement that I have had stick is my hormone levels. When I first got pfs my t levels were a measly 350. Now I’m around 750. My dht was actually above the scale at 64. My levels have gone pretty much gotten to a good spot, but I still have sexual sides all the same. Erectile dysfunction, libido, atrophied testicles and penis. Anyways I started the protocol in the beginning of December. I was coming off a 3 months of hcg which didn’t do anything. Started with a 7 day juice fast and have been cycling 7 herbs, taking pine pollen everyday, spiriluna/chlorella daily, digestive enzymes, pregnelone, probiotics daily, paleo diet(are potatoes ok?), cold showers, change of soaps etc. I had some improvement getting morning wood daily and more response when I think of sex. Lately it seems to have dropped though the past few weeks. So I got my first bottle of ultra hard and I’m not sure where to apply it. It’s shows on the bottle the stomach area/chest, but I thought we had to put it on our scrotum. Also I know on the website it’s says pumping is safe with the bath mate, but I’m afraid to damage myself and make things worse. Any tips/reassurance and noted benefits would be great as I would like to of course add that since it’s part of the protocol. Thanks, sorry for the long post.

Paragraphs my man, please.

You get out of this 100% of what you put in. Pumping can be dangerous, yes, but that's why we follow specific instructions.

Put the ultra hard on the upper chest, shoulders, arms stomach,etc. You can put a pump on the scrotum, but that's not really necessary. Simply follow the instructions on the bottle.

[tallstraw]

Paragraphs my man, please.

xD

[Cdsnuts]

xD

Where the hell you been?!

What's good brother? How you been?

[Revy]

Ok, thanks cd. Ima start the ultra hard tonight and buy a bath mate.

[tallstraw]

Where the hell you been?!

What's good brother? How you been?

I f-off for a while. Then it comes time to go back out on a deployment and I get hardcore back into lifting since theres f-all do out here. I always think of this when I think of lifting, since PP is when I got into this whole game. So this is THE original forum for me since it migrated after "The Fall" lol. Even if it has changed into more of a PFS place. I can still entertain myself amongst people.

Spent 3/4 of last year having a holiday in new Zealand waiting to get back to work. Luckily they started back up again to some degree and I was able to grab a seat back out to Afghanistan. It's been months in the making

[Cdsnuts]

I f-off for a while. Then it comes time to go back out on a deployment and I get hardcore back into lifting since theres f-all do out here. I always think of this when I think of lifting, since PP is when I got into this whole game. So this is THE original forum for me since it migrated after "The Fall" lol. Even if it has changed into more of a PFS place. I can still entertain myself amongst people.

Spent 3/4 of last year having a holiday in new Zealand waiting to get back to work. Luckily they started back up again to some degree and I was able to grab a seat back out to Afghanistan. It's been months in the making

Always wanted to go to New Zealand. How is it? And back to Afghanistan, huh? I thought we were pulling out of there?

And yeah, the place has changed a lot.....go easy on these guys...lol....the board is now full of sick people working on getting better. Sense of humor comes around only so often....understandably so.

I do miss the old PP AND the old Swole Source....place was the best forum around, imo.

[tallstraw]

Always wanted to go to New Zealand. How is it? And back to Afghanistan, huh? I thought we were pulling out of there?

And yeah, the place has changed a lot.....go easy on these guys...lol....the board is now full of sick people working on getting better. Sense of humor comes around only so often....understandably so.

I do miss the old PP AND the old Swole Source....place was the best forum around, imo.

We are definitely downsizing and concentrating the various forces. Military is slowly lessening its numbers. Contractor however are like the last to leave. Especially ones like me, since they'd have to send way more green suitors out to do the same job.
It will eventually become quite a small footprint, but I see us here for the long haul for geopolitical reasons with China and Russia.

It really was the best forum. It's crazy that I was saying shit 10 years ago to dudes I was "acquiring" for. Then when I stopped and they were forced to do all their own research and all. Years later when we catch up and chat, theyre like all the shit you said back then was right. It was all the discussions wed have on here since we had such high quality members.

Ill keep my smartass to the minimum I can.. but it's like asking a bird not to fly.. im a peacock, you gotta let me fly.

NZ was the shit btw. Freakin gorgeous. Vibe is really great. I stayed down in Queenstown the whole time though having fun. So, I cant speak to experience everywhere. I only saw Dunedin, Hawks bay, and Queenstown. But id recommend it in a heartbeat. Thinking of going to school out there when I finish up this gig and hit the net worth I want, IF my ticket to Europe with this chick doesn't work out. My long term goal being Finland... but NZ aint bad lol

[LetsGo]

Hi been a pfs sufferer for 8 years. Was a lurker on the pfs forum and now have been lurking on this site since late November. I’ve tried many things such as Clomid, 14 day water fast, herb cycling, ihatepropecia protocol, pelvic floor therapy, and Hcg. Would always have a slight improvement then a drop. The only improvement that I have had stick is my hormone levels. When I first got pfs my t levels were a measly 350. Now I’m around 750. My dht was actually above the scale at 64. My levels have gone pretty much gotten to a good spot, but I still have sexual sides all the same. Erectile dysfunction, libido, atrophied testicles and penis. Anyways I started the protocol in the beginning of December. I was coming off a 3 months of hcg which didn’t do anything. Started with a 7 day juice fast and have been cycling 7 herbs, taking pine pollen everyday, spiriluna/chlorella daily, digestive enzymes, pregnelone, probiotics daily, paleo diet(are potatoes ok?), cold showers, change of soaps etc. I had some improvement getting morning wood daily and more response when I think of sex. Lately it seems to have dropped though the past few weeks. So I got my first bottle of ultra hard and I’m not sure where to apply it. It’s shows on the bottle the stomach area/chest, but I thought we had to put it on our scrotum. Also I know on the website it’s says pumping is safe with the bath mate, but I’m afraid to damage myself and make things worse. Any tips/reassurance and noted benefits would be great as I would like to of course add that since it’s part of the protocol. Thanks, sorry for the long post.

Welcome to the forum!

Make sure that you’re following the exercising instructions as well. You didn’t mention whether you were doing that, but it’s very important to all of this.

[Cdsnuts]

Welcome to the forum!

Make sure that you’re following the exercising instructions as well. You didn’t mention whether you were doing that, but it’s very important to all of this.

Tall straw is an old head on this forum. He's been around since the beginning when this forum was strictly a bodybuilding forum, which is what most of the older members were here for, myself included. Things have change drastically here seeing as now, it's just the propecia section keeping this place alive.

He's not here for the protocol...just an old member checking in, that's all.