Spigens story - Recovery Log

[Outlaw]

Little update..

Did a 6-day Juice Feast in the end... had to stop and get on the raw fruit + veggies as every Juice literally was making me gag hardcore, no doubt will do another week or so further down the line - Mental sides seem to have chilled a bit a few days after the juice feast, during I found it pretty tough with work and stuff as my brain fog seemed to be at its peak. Libido is still 0 but as previously mentioned my main aim at the moment is regaining mental clarity & which seems to be improving gradually.

Diet, Exercise, Cold showers, Avoiding chemicals, Meditation & breathing all in play.

Supplements:

AM

Vitamin D 4000ug - general mood seems better
Spirulina (I've found that chlorella causes me brain fog so going to leave that for now.. - Maybe that's the zinc?)
Probiotic - Find this has helped with stomach and digestion
100mg l-theanine - Makes me feel chilled.. 300mg was too much.

PM
1g Glycine before bed (Really helped with deep sleep according to my smartwatch)
300g Magnesium (Originally I was using ZMA - this made me wake up at 3 am sweating so have thrown it.. again maybe zinc?)

Based on the above I'm now planning to order some Herbs, if I seen to have an intolerance to Zinc is there any herbs that I should avoid? - I have some pine pollen powder being delivered so going to give that a try today.

I was going to order & cycle: Fo-ti, Rhodiola, Macuna, Tongat Ali, Aswaghanda, Trillibus, Bacopa & Horny Goat

Another thing to bear in mind is that Caffeine & Alchohol have no effect on me at all in terms of stimulation (Not sure if that's a dopamine or receptor issue) but do make the brain fog & anxiety much worse in the hours/days to follow.

Whatsup man, 6 days is pretty good on the juice feast way to go. Don't panic if your libido is dead it's normal; when feasting sexuality is the last thing your body thinks about.

I told you I would update you regarding the herbs. So far I only took 5 (Royal Jelly, Pine Pollen, Ant Extract, Tongkat Ali, Cistanche), and I took them really well. Buckle up with Tongkat ali though hahah, this shit is strong. I only put 1/16 tsp in a 500ml shake and not only did the whole thing tasted harsh, but I could feel the extra energy/vitality in a matter of minutes.

Regarding the herbs you took, I would maybe also take a look into Cistanche and He Shou Wu. I read an old CD post where he listed the first 7 herbs he would start with, and they were among them. But at the end of the day specific herbs don't matter and you can always add some. My stack is Pine Pollen, Royal Jelly, Ant Extract, Tongkat Ali, Cistanche, He Shou Wu and Rhodolia.

Another suggestion would be to get a notebook with a grid where you check every aspect of the protocol everyday. I keep mine by my bed and I check everything at night before doing my breathing exercises and going to sleep. It helps me stay focused and it reminds me small details that I might have forgot, like the vitamin D or whatever.

Let us know how everything goes

[Spigen17]

Whatsup man, 6 days is pretty good on the juice feast way to go. Don't panic if your libido is dead it's normal; when feasting sexuality is the last thing your body thinks about.

I told you I would update you regarding the herbs. So far I only took 5 (Royal Jelly, Pine Pollen, Ant Extract, Tongkat Ali, Cistanche), and I took them really well. Buckle up with Tongkat ali though hahah, this shit is strong. I only put 1/16 tsp in a 500ml shake and not only did the whole thing tasted harsh, but I could feel the extra energy/vitality in a matter of minutes.

Regarding the herbs you took, I would maybe also take a look into Cistanche and He Shou Wu. I read an old CD post where he listed the first 7 herbs he would start with, and they were among them. But at the end of the day specific herbs don't matter and you can always add some. My stack is Pine Pollen, Royal Jelly, Ant Extract, Tongkat Ali, Cistanche, He Shou Wu and Rhodolia.

Another suggestion would be to get a notebook with a grid where you check every aspect of the protocol everyday. I keep mine by my bed and I check everything at night before doing my breathing exercises and going to sleep. It helps me stay focused and it reminds me small details that I might have forgot, like the vitamin D or whatever.

Let us know how everything goes

Hey man, good to hear from you, hows things been for you the last week or so? - Yeah experienced some slightly worrying shrinkage during the feast... seems to have returned to normal-ish now for the time being haha.

Noted on the herbs, I'll take a look at those ones you've suggested.. I'm UK based so can't use the recommended website for that, unfortunately - the best place in the UK seems to be these guys https://www.british-supplements.net/...i-eurycomanone - Although all the herb doses seem pretty hardcore based on your 1/16 tsp haha.. will have to see how it goes I presume!

Great idea with the notebook, I'm currently doing something similar on my phone but can't beat the simplicity of putting pen to paper once in a while haha.

Likewise my man, keep digging in.

[Outlaw]

Hey man, good to hear from you, hows things been for you the last week or so? - Yeah experienced some slightly worrying shrinkage during the feast... seems to have returned to normal-ish now for the time being haha.

Noted on the herbs, I'll take a look at those ones you've suggested.. I'm UK based so can't use the recommended website for that, unfortunately - the best place in the UK seems to be these guys https://www.british-supplements.net/...i-eurycomanone - Although all the herb doses seem pretty hardcore based on your 1/16 tsp haha.. will have to see how it goes I presume!

Great idea with the notebook, I'm currently doing something similar on my phone but can't beat the simplicity of putting pen to paper once in a while haha.

Likewise my man, keep digging in.

Yeah I had shrinkage too during and a little bit after the feast. Libido took a vacation leave too. I think it's perfectly normal.

Don't worry about the intensity hahah, tongkat ali is the only one that comes with a 1/16tsp, the rest are pretty normal like 1/2 or 1 tsp.

I have been doing good, my mental sides are gone so I am super grateful. Physically, I only struggle with mild tinnitus and face wrinkles upon waking up. Sexually I made improvements: I can feel arousal again, have no problem with ED, the hard flaccid/flaccid shrinkage is gone. The remaining struggles are slightly rubber flaccid penis, left curve when semi-erect, reduced sensitivity, low libido, less pleasurable orgasm (haven't verified that one since I hopped on the protocol hahah).

Basically I am at this weird point where I am clearly not well, but I am clearly not fucked either. So I guess improvements are not as drastic in this phase. I think we are very greedy as humans: if 1 month ago you had told me I would be here I would have been stoked. Yet now I want more and I keep focusing on what's left. So I think a good lesson is not to spotcheck every symptom, but at the same time be really grateful when you notice your list gets shorter (no matter what's left on it).

Keep pushing man, it's encouraging to have people living similar things at the same time.

[Cdsnuts]

Yeah I had shrinkage too during and a little bit after the feast. Libido took a vacation leave too. I think it's perfectly normal.

Don't worry about the intensity hahah, tongkat ali is the only one that comes with a 1/16tsp, the rest are pretty normal like 1/2 or 1 tsp.

I have been doing good, my mental sides are gone so I am super grateful. Physically, I only struggle with mild tinnitus and face wrinkles upon waking up. Sexually I made improvements: I can feel arousal again, have no problem with ED, the hard flaccid/flaccid shrinkage is gone. The remaining struggles are slightly rubber flaccid penis, left curve when semi-erect, reduced sensitivity, low libido, less pleasurable orgasm (haven't verified that one since I hopped on the protocol hahah).

Basically I am at this weird point where I am clearly not well, but I am clearly not fucked either. So I guess improvements are not as drastic in this phase. I think we are very greedy as humans: if 1 month ago you had told me I would be here I would have been stoked. Yet now I want more and I keep focusing on what's left. So I think a good lesson is not to spotcheck every symptom, but at the same time be really grateful when you notice your list gets shorter (no matter what's left on it).

Keep pushing man, it's encouraging to have people living similar things at the same time.

The more you heal and the better you get, the more annoying it becomes because you start to feel better....you can feel things returning....it makes it so you just want it to be over with quicker then it's going to be.

The last stretch is the most annoying.....when you're at 80%+...you feel like you're right there, but still not exactly where you want to be.

[Outlaw]

The more you heal and the better you get, the more annoying it becomes because you start to feel better....you can feel things returning....it makes it so you just want it to be over with quicker then it's going to be.

The last stretch is the most annoying.....when you're at 80%+...you feel like you're right there, but still not exactly where you want to be.

Ok thanks that's reassuring. From your experiences, does this stretch last longer? Do people generally experience quick improvements in the beginning and then the complete recovery takes marginally a bit more time?

[Cdsnuts]

Ok thanks that's reassuring. From your experiences, does this stretch last longer? Do people generally experience quick improvements in the beginning and then the complete recovery takes marginally a bit more time?

No. It's typically the other way around. Sometimes it'll take a guy three months of straight up 100% protocol to finally get it to budge. It's slow going in the beginning....painfully sometimes. Takes a minute to get a foothold and get some traction. Once the body starts to build health, it starts happening quicker and quicker. Quicker being a relative term of course depending on who you're talking about.

[Cdsnuts]

Hey man, good to hear from you, hows things been for you the last week or so? - Yeah experienced some slightly worrying shrinkage during the feast... seems to have returned to normal-ish now for the time being haha.

Noted on the herbs, I'll take a look at those ones you've suggested.. I'm UK based so can't use the recommended website for that, unfortunately - the best place in the UK seems to be these guys https://www.british-supplements.net/...i-eurycomanone - Although all the herb doses seem pretty hardcore based on your 1/16 tsp haha.. will have to see how it goes I presume!

Great idea with the notebook, I'm currently doing something similar on my phone but can't beat the simplicity of putting pen to paper once in a while haha.

Likewise my man, keep digging in.

FYI....I have plenty of guys order LEH from the UK.....is it not letting you ship?

[Spigen17]

FYI....I have plenty of guys order LEH from the UK.....is it not letting you ship?

I reached out to them to get an estimated delivery date prior to ordering and they said they do ship to the UK but due to Brexit (lol) & COVID they're having issues atm. Going to run with a more local provider for a smaller batch of herbs for now then maybe LEH in a few months.

[Cdsnuts]

I reached out to them to get an estimated delivery date prior to ordering and they said they do ship to the UK but due to Brexit (lol) & COVID they're having issues atm. Going to run with a more local provider for a smaller batch of herbs for now then maybe LEH in a few months.

Yeah...I believe the transit time is around three weeks.

Just make sure you get the purest form of each one with no fillers, binders, etc. The other aspect is the quality. Believe me, it makes a difference.