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    OnePercent Journey to 110%

    Hey guys,
    I hope this isn't a huge word splurge, but I wanted to post an intro in my own thread instead of putting two separate intros in two different threads.

    I am a 22 year old male from Arizona, and am very active (been lifting since I was in high school and usually lift 5-6 days a week with 2-4 days of MMA training [mainly Muay Thai and BJJ). I also look after my diet and eat a fairly whole foods diet (I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis at age 17 so I have had to lock down on my physical activity and nutrition to stay healthy and symptom free).

    I believe February 16 I took 1mg of Finasteride and 5% minoxidil for about 6 days, after 6 days of experiencing headaches, brain fog, and weird libido issues as well as an extremely persistent strange obsessive/intrusive thought I decided to stop taking the medicine and do some research and I realized I was experiencing PFS. After I quit the pill and minox the headaches and brain fog have stopped but the same strange persistent intrusive/obsessives thought stayed which led to other symptoms down the line.

    Now I am here, after browsing through many depressing and anxiety causing forums I saw someone say the "cdnuts protocol was debunked" and thought maybe some ideas have been created off of this protocol so I did some research and realized that the cdnuts protocol wasn't debunked and that they were just negative forums trying to drag everyone down - and have been ecstatic since finding this forum and TMO which have given me a breath of fresh air from the positivity and happiness I see on these forums from people.

    I want to now list my side effects and current starting protocol so I can see the progress I make on this journey to recovery.

    Current Sides:
    Mental:
    A single strong and persistent obsessive/intrusive thought (strongest side effect)
    Consistent obsession/racing thoughts (usually about PFS or the above)
    Depression (comes in spurts of usually a few hours to a day a couple times a week)
    Sleep:
    8 hours of sleep but waking up 3-4 times a night (usually awakening with the intrusive thought or the thought of PFS)
    Didn't know this was a thing or symptom but waking up to music in your head in the morning lol (it's like I have a free radio in my head lmao)
    Sexual:
    Shrinkage
    ED and libido issues
    Ulcerative Colitis:
    Caused me to flare up and exit remission

    My symptoms are somewhat bad but from reading these forums I feel grateful that my symptoms are not as bad as others (others that have recovered as well!). On most days (usually days I hit the gym) I feel between 60-79.9%, other days (usually rest days) I can feel anywhere from 30-60%. I believe that I am having some good days due to the factors that I am young and have maintained a fairly healthy lifestyle (diet and fitness).

    Current Protocol:
    Ordered a ton of supps and went to walmart and bought a ton of fruits and veggies and supps today

    Tuesday (3/23) - Starting 3 Day Juice Feast/Cleanse

    After the juice feast I plan on resuming my current diet but removing 2 foods (protein bar and kodiak cakes pancake mix) as these two items are the only items I consume with gluten. Being diagnosed with Ulcerative colitis I usually meal prep and eat the same exact foods every day. Meat, veggies/fruits, and carbs (oatmeal, banza noodles [noodles made from chickpeas], and rice) all carb sources free from gluten.

    Also after the juice feast depending on when my supps arrive I plan on implementing:
    Daily (morning):
    5mg Creatine Monohydrate
    Herb rotation (7 herb starting protocol rotating daily)
    -Ashwaganda, Butea Superba, Catabuaba Bark, Organic Schisandra, Organic Mucuna Extract, Goji Berry Freeze Dried Concentrate Organic, Tongkat Ali
    Optimizing Brain Stack
    -L-Theanine, Lion's Mane, Bacopa

    Daily (at lunch):
    10,000 IU of Vitamin D
    10 pills of Chlorella
    Pine Pollen (serving size as stated by Lost Empire)
    Mesalamine (Ulcerative Colitis medicine)

    Daily (at night for sleep):
    Magnesium (400mg)
    Glycine
    Albizia (serving size as stated by Lost Empire)

    Besides the supps I plan on implementing the cold shower therapy (weekly protocol of building up to 1 minute+), sunning 3 days per week (with the boys), adding 2 HIIT days with mobility work before and stretching afterwards (have a massage gun I haven't really used but will use it 2-3 times a week for myofascial release), also will abstain from porn and masturbation for as long as possible (this has been an issue in the past)

    After I get used to this routine (probably after 1-2 weeks) I will add the breathing and meditation and potentially the pumping

    If anybody at all reads this thank you! it honestly feels better after writing this all out and letting it go, this forum has been huge for the days where I feel down. Hoping that after consistent year round work that I can flatten that curve and go from 79.9% and 30% days to 80% 90% and 110% days!

    As my name states I plan on improving 1% each day, some days I know I may take a few steps back but that just sets you up for 3 steps forward!

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    Whats up man,

    Just wanna reply to show some life in your thread, I understand the struggle when you post and no one answers ahahh. I think the people that get better think about this place less and less, so the new guys have the impression they are alone, but we're not.

    I can relate to your story and short usage, as I am 23 and only took 1 pill. If it can give you hope, my mental sides pretty much cleared by themselves at month #3, I started the protocol (2 weeks ago) and they have not come back since. I think the consensus is people usually get their head back before their sexuality.

    I am not an experienced member so I will let others speak, but regarding the juice feast, I think you should be aiming for a week rather than 3 days. Also, on top of the herb rotation, I think most guys here take pine pollen daily! And I wouldn't wait to incorporate the breathing exercises, it's really easy but it helps a lot for the anxiety. I just do it before I leave my bed in the morning, and before going to sleep. It also makes me go to sleep way faster, 2 birds 1 stone.

    Nice that you train MMA. I used to do Muay-Thai, really kept me in shape. I am also a huge UFC fan. There's a nice card this saturday, I'm really rooting for my boy Francis to snatch that heavyweight belt.

    You found a good place here, stay focused on the protocol but most importantly, stay hopeful

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    Hey man thanks for the reply!

    Mental sides are honestly one of the hardest parts right now, they come in strong waves but then tend to die off for a free hours and sometimes a day or two before ramping back up. And yea about the juice cleanse I saw earlier threads of people doing a 3-5 day water fast or juice cleanse and starting on protocol right away and kinda wanted to do that. I really want to hop on the supplement protocol even though I have seen that 1 week is recommended.

    With the pine pollen I was plan on taking it daily, I might have not specified it in the above post but I bought 7 herbs that I plan on rotating daily eventually building up to the 21 and taking the pine pollen daily.

    And yea I am really hype for the card this weekend. I honestly think Stipe defends again but seeing Francis win the belt and potentially Francis vs Jon would be sick. I am also rooting for O'Malley cause I'm from AZ even though he gets a lot of hate lmao.

    I appreciate your comment and trying to stay focused and hopeful and maintaining a positive attitude. Not sure if there is another group chat, or forum, or instagram group or something out there that people connect with but I would love to join!

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    Hey man,

    Welcome - I'm relatively new here also and have similar sides to yourself. Keep us updated on how things progress, your list seems pretty spot on to me. Keep digging in, I felt the exact same as you once you let go and write everything down here I think that's a large part of starting your recovery progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent View Post
    Hey man thanks for the reply!

    Mental sides are honestly one of the hardest parts right now, they come in strong waves but then tend to die off for a free hours and sometimes a day or two before ramping back up. And yea about the juice cleanse I saw earlier threads of people doing a 3-5 day water fast or juice cleanse and starting on protocol right away and kinda wanted to do that. I really want to hop on the supplement protocol even though I have seen that 1 week is recommended.

    With the pine pollen I was plan on taking it daily, I might have not specified it in the above post but I bought 7 herbs that I plan on rotating daily eventually building up to the 21 and taking the pine pollen daily.

    And yea I am really hype for the card this weekend. I honestly think Stipe defends again but seeing Francis win the belt and potentially Francis vs Jon would be sick. I am also rooting for O'Malley cause I'm from AZ even though he gets a lot of hate lmao.

    I appreciate your comment and trying to stay focused and hopeful and maintaining a positive attitude. Not sure if there is another group chat, or forum, or instagram group or something out there that people connect with but I would love to join!
    Hey welcome,

    Looks like you have a good mindset. Maybe donít join any other support groups for the time being. A lot of this is a mental game and being connected into Pfs chat constantly is not going to do you any favors. Try to put your minds elsewhere as much as possible. A lot of users have expressed mental progress by letting go and living their life, as hard as that may seem for you at the moment.

    Best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Hey welcome,

    Looks like you have a good mindset. Maybe don’t join any other support groups for the time being. A lot of this is a mental game and being connected into Pfs chat constantly is not going to do you any favors. Try to put your minds elsewhere as much as possible. A lot of users have expressed mental progress by letting go and living their life, as hard as that may seem for you at the moment.

    Best of luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent View Post
    Hey man thanks for the reply!

    Mental sides are honestly one of the hardest parts right now, they come in strong waves but then tend to die off for a free hours and sometimes a day or two before ramping back up. And yea about the juice cleanse I saw earlier threads of people doing a 3-5 day water fast or juice cleanse and starting on protocol right away and kinda wanted to do that. I really want to hop on the supplement protocol even though I have seen that 1 week is recommended.

    With the pine pollen I was plan on taking it daily, I might have not specified it in the above post but I bought 7 herbs that I plan on rotating daily eventually building up to the 21 and taking the pine pollen daily.

    And yea I am really hype for the card this weekend. I honestly think Stipe defends again but seeing Francis win the belt and potentially Francis vs Jon would be sick. I am also rooting for O'Malley cause I'm from AZ even though he gets a lot of hate lmao.

    I appreciate your comment and trying to stay focused and hopeful and maintaining a positive attitude. Not sure if there is another group chat, or forum, or instagram group or something out there that people connect with but I would love to join!
    The longer the cleanse, the better.

    The cleanse will make ALL the supps work that much better.

    This is a marathon, not a sprint.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Just wanted to post a little update, finished a three day juice feast and began implementing aspects of the protocol I was not already doing mainly supplementation and cold showers. Been lifting for about 8 years and have been actually eating gluten free for a while without knowing as well. I would like to say my sleep has basically returned to normal this past week after being terrible for the week on finasteride and the two weeks after without being on protocol. I have also seen a huge improvement in sexual sides, shrinkage was bad during the juice feast but has returned to basically pre-fin size most of the time, I also have seen an increase in libido to about 70-100% of pre-fin levels, also experiencing morning wood, and spontaneous wood. However my mental sides have improved very slowly and are still the worst of the side effects (obsessing over weird thoughts and obsessing/thinking/stressing over PFS). I also wanted to note that I broke my 8 day porn/masturbation streak last night and kinda set me into a downswing today but still keeping a positive mindset.

    Current stuff I am doing

    Lifting (5 days a week, I run a modified version of the conjugate method), clean eating, sun (I live in Arizona so it is kinda hard not to hit 20 minutes a day lol), and cold showers (currently progressed to 20 seconds after my usual warm shower but it is getting fairly easy now), and MMA/BJJ 2-4 times a week

    In terms of supplementation I am taking lions mane, bacopa, and l-theanin daily in the morning with my swithcing t boosting herb (currently rotating between 7), creatine, and my ulcerative colitis medicine, I am also taking vitamin d, pine pollen (3 capsules), and chlroella daily at lunch, and lastly magnesium bisglycinate, glycine, albinzia, and pine pollen (3 more capsules) daily at night (I believe these nightly supplements have been the biggest reason for my improvement as they have allowed me to regain good restorative sleep.

    Way happier than I was merely 9 days ago but still no where even close to where I want to be, excited where I will be in a year. Hoping to ride out this current downswing and continue down the path. Gonna stay offline and away from this forum (even though it is a breath of fresh air) for a month or so because I believe this is a factor of my mental sides.

    Hoping for the best for everyone!

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    Keep it up man, you seem to be doing good. If you have seen improvements this early I'd take that as a good sign. I didn't have as much improvements in the first 2 months that's for sure.
    I'm guilty of doing the same, but try to focus on what got better to cheer you up! You could be at the exact same initial place, and that would suck.

    Regarding the obsessing, letting yourself get distracted is key. On that note, you can tell yourself at least Francis and Omalley won their fight in devastating fashion hahah

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    Just a reminder for everyone....the recommended cleanse time is a week....at least.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Wanted to post a quick update. The past two months or so have been very good! My sleep has returned to about normal and most of my symptoms have started to fade. I wanted to just make a quick post because I have been going through a bit of a downswing the past few days - mostly mental stuff and intrusive thoughts. I had a downswing a few weeks back that lasted a few days but this one seems to be lasting longer. On a positive note I have been hanging out with this chick and have been able to perform in bed like I did in the past - on the downside my downswing started because I started getting thoughts that next time I would get ED or something. Trying to continue to stay positive and best of wishes to everyone else!

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