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    How to... Minimize Side Effects, Increase Mucscle Retention during cycle and PCT

    What is the perfect cycle? Simply put... it's a cycle in which you experience no side effects and keep all your gains.

    So what does the following advice help with?

    1. Minimizing side effects on cycle
    2. Increasing muscle retention during pct

    What's that? No mention of muscle gain or fat loss?

    Look guys... muscle gained and fat lost is all about diet, training and what kind of cycle you're running. Want to gain a ton of weight? test+dbol. Want to cut down and bulk up at the same time? Test+tren+mast. No secrets, just eat a lot, eat right and train like a monster.

    On Cycle Ancillaries:

    Antaeus Labs Talos:
    1. Black Rice Extract: Increase HDL, lower LDL
    2. SAMe: Liver protection, Anti-oxidant, Anti-inflammatory
    3. Ubiquinone (CoQ10): Lower blood pressure, reduce LDL oxidation (main cause of atherosclerosis)
    4. Astilbin: Lower blood pressure, potassium retention
    5. Trans-Resveratrol: Anti-oxidant, vasrelaxant
    6. Salicylate: reduces risk of blood clots, heart attack and stroke
    7. Astaxanthin: powerful anti-oxidant, prevent atherosclerosis

    Antaeus Labs Aegis (if you are using methyls/orals):
    1. TUDCA: Best Liver Protection on the market

    Melatonin:
    1. Helps with sleep on anything that is disrupting your sleep. Isn't the beat all end all of sleep supps but it's so cheap. Buy it and try it at 3mg.

    HCG:
    1. Only if your cycle is over 10 weeks long: 250 iu E3D starting at week 4, ending the last week.

    On cycle estrogen combat!

    Always have these two on you at all times when cycling. You wouldn't want to be caught without them. And if you don't use them, you have them for next cycle. IF YOU DON'T USE THEM, YOU STILL HAVE THEM FOR NEXT TIME!

    Letrozole: AI for the cycle. Don't start until high e2 symptoms arise.
    1. If e2 symptoms arise, start using at .5mg per day. Increase dose until e2 symptoms are gone.
    2. THEN, lower it back down to .5mg per day.
    3. If sides recur, up to the dose you had it when they went away.

    Nolvadex: SERM for the cycle. Don't start until high e2 symptoms arise.
    1. Start dosing at 20mg.
    2. Drop to 10mg after e2 sides are gone.
    3. If sides recur, up dose to 20mg and stay there.

    Why both an AI and a SERM for on-cycle protection?

    1. I've found some guys who need both to do well with controlling gyno/estrogen sides on cycle. And this way your letro dose doesn't need to be crazy high either.
    2. If you know you are prone to e2, I would suggest start dosing letro/nolva at .5mg and 1mg during the cycle. Increase dosage if needed.

    Last 2 weeks of cycle:

    Applies only to 8+ week cycles. HERE, we want to obliterate fat in the last 2 weeks to setup well for PCT. Going into PCT fat is a recipe for turning testosterone into estrogen, getting gyno, and losing your gains.

    ***Goal: Get to or below 12% body fat.***

    For anyone crazy enough to risk death: DNP
    1. 250-500mg per day (last 2 weeks of cycle ONLY!)
    2. Extremely effective, extremely dangerous.

    What most people should use: ECA+T3
    1. T3 25-50mcg per day
    2. E+C: 25/100 2-3x per day

    PCT
    (Yes, 6 week PCT. Deal with it. All the SERM studies show 3 months of use. No idea why PCT is only 4 weeks.)

    Staples:
    1. Aromasin (mg): 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 EOD/12.5 EOD/12.5 EOD
    2. Toremifene (mg): 120/90/60/60/60/30 (each day per week)
    3. Ostarine (mg): 12.5/12.5/10/10/5/5 (each day per week)

    Insulin:

    Insulin the most anabolic hormone. It can help you immensely when keeping gains in PCT. It's key that you utilized the leaning phase at the end of your cycle so as to allow for the insulin protocol.

    1. 20g glucose + 5g Leucine immediately postworkout. Has been shown to significantly raise insulin. You may also do this protocol at another time when your stomach is empty.

    -OR-

    2. Insulin: 2 iu waking, 2 iu postworkout (all 6 weeks of PCT).

    GHRP/Mod-GRF

    1. 100mcg/100mcg of both GHRP and Mod-GRF. Once before bed, once 20 minutes before your insulin and/or glucose+leucine.

    Total ancillary cost w/out slin/ghrp: 365 (325 if no methyls)

    And you're already going to be getting an AI+SERM+Cycle support. So it's only an extra $100 or so to make sure you do it right.
    Last edited by BBG; 12-22-2012 at 03:33 PM.
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