AMS EPI-1 Test

[Strong_Guy]

Wanted to bump this thread to see if anyone on here has had any experience with this yet. Considering this for a late fall/early winter moderate bulk cycle. I'm looking at picking up three bottles and either running 6 doses/day for 8 weeks or 8 doses/day for 6 weeks. Probably will stack with Derm like someone else suggested. I want to dose it fairly high because I had great results with the 1-DHEA in AM v2, but like others have said, I had pretty bad lethargy. Hopefully the Epiandro and Derm can offset this.

[Rocky98]

I tried this product stacked with their DecaSarm product. Felt nothing. Gained nothing.

I had very good results with AH V3 previously and had great results with the original 1-AD a few years ago.

I think the drastically low dosage of AMS and Forerunner is problem. Really not sure why these companies don't make a product with the proper dosage like Eric and PP did. We have already proven we will spend the extra cash for the right product.

[Strong_Guy]

I tried this product stacked with their DecaSarm product. Felt nothing. Gained nothing.

I had very good results with AH V3 previously and had great results with the original 1-AD a few years ago.

I think the drastically low dosage of AMS and Forerunner is problem. Really not sure why these companies don't make a product with the proper dosage like Eric and PP did. We have already proven we will spend the extra cash for the right product.

I thought this may be an issue, so I'll be tapering up to a fairly high to 8 doses per day for an 8 week cycle. Did you run the Epi 1 at recommended dose or try increasing it at all? The idea of the two compounds stacked sounded intriguing so I picked up three bottles to give it a try. If this doesn't work out well, I may just go with AMS 1-Andro or FR Alpha Mass and try mega dosing one of those in the future. Thanks for the input.

[Freepressright]

With respect to dosage, the AMS RDe Chrome tabs are dosed adequately.... if you're planning to stack them. As far as standalone dosage is concerned, they're a little on the weak side. That's the one thing I respected and admired about Primordial Performance products. They never skimped on dosages. They were always beyond generous. And that's why Eric's PHs have such a cult following.

[Right Hook]

AMS tabs are effervescent or liquid cyclos. If you don't use them correctly they will not work properly.

That means you need to place them under your tongue and hold them there for thirty seconds or more.

They can actually convert to 1-test right inside your mouth. I once held a liquid 1-Andro dose under my tongue for 10-15 minutes then swallowed. If you have ever used 1-test you know it burns extremely bad. When I swallowed it felt like I was drinking fire. Couldn't breath and was coughing for a decent period of time. That was the first time I thought a supplement might kill me lol. But not the last (cissus is dangerous too I swear).

[Freepressright]

AMS tabs are effervescent or liquid cyclos. If you don't use them correctly they will not work properly.

That means you need to place them under your tongue and hold them there for thirty seconds or more.

They can actually convert to 1-test right inside your mouth. I once held a liquid 1-Andro dose under my tongue for 10-15 minutes then swallowed. If you have ever used 1-test you know it burns extremely bad. When I swallowed it felt like I was drinking fire. Couldn't breath and was coughing for a decent period of time. That was the first time I thought a supplement might kill me lol. But not the last (cissus is dangerous too I swear).

As a repeat user of both the RD and the RDe series tabs, no one should have any problem holding them for more than 30 seconds because it would be a blessing if it was even 1/8th of the way dissolved in 30 seconds. It's every bit of 10 minutes or more before those things dissolve. And yes, I've tried scoring the tabs.

Same can be said for the FRL 5-Alpha Test.

Trust me, I'm doing plenty of holding under my tongue.

[Rocky98]

AMS tabs are effervescent or liquid cyclos. If you don't use them correctly they will not work properly.

That means you need to place them under your tongue and hold them there for thirty seconds or more.

They can actually convert to 1-test right inside your mouth. I once held a liquid 1-Andro dose under my tongue for 10-15 minutes then swallowed. If you have ever used 1-test you know it burns extremely bad. When I swallowed it felt like I was drinking fire. Couldn't breath and was coughing for a decent period of time. That was the first time I thought a supplement might kill me lol. But not the last (cissus is dangerous too I swear).

I've held the tabs under my mouth for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, etc. Same with the EPI liquid. I did NOT increase the dosage for either because I wanted to see if the product would work at the recommended dosage like PP's products. Maybe in the future I'll try increasing the dosage but frankly I'd rather do a 4 week run of Epistane or H-Drol with the proper cycle support. At least I'll know I'm getting results out of my time and money. Nothing's worse than wasting a 4-8 week run on products that don't work because you still have to take the 8 weeks off just to be safe.

[Freepressright]

I use AMS products as a test base for a much more potent compound. I'm not convinced the products do a whole lot as a standalone, based on my previous experience with them

[Right Hook]

As a repeat user of both the RD and the RDe series tabs, no one should have any problem holding them for more than 30 seconds because it would be a blessing if it was even 1/8th of the way dissolved in 30 seconds. It's every bit of 10 minutes or more before those things dissolve. And yes, I've tried scoring the tabs.

Same can be said for the FRL 5-Alpha Test.

Trust me, I'm doing plenty of holding under my tongue.

Tabs are a tricky things to produce. You have to make them hard enough so that they don't crumble to dust during packing/shipping. Yet soft enough to dissolve quickly. The RDe's are quite a bit softer than their predecessors. But we also deal with a ton of returns because of broken tabs. It's a catch 22.

[Right Hook]

I've held the tabs under my mouth for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, etc. Same with the EPI liquid. I did NOT increase the dosage for either because I wanted to see if the product would work at the recommended dosage like PP's products. Maybe in the future I'll try increasing the dosage but frankly I'd rather do a 4 week run of Epistane or H-Drol with the proper cycle support. At least I'll know I'm getting results out of my time and money. Nothing's worse than wasting a 4-8 week run on products that don't work because you still have to take the 8 weeks off just to be safe.

That's fine. We can't sell things like Epi or halo as they are not DSHEA compliant. We are pretty confident for the masses the compounds work though. In more controlled settings it does quite well:

1-DHEA - Powerful Prohormone According to Researchers | Designer Steroids | TunedSports.com - Legal Anabolic Steroid Pro-hormone Supplement Blog.