How should I space out the AS products I currently have?

[Anonymous]

I originally wanted to do these cycles

3x AD, 6x AH (8 weeks)
6x AH (16 weeks)

Would require 1 bottle of AD and 6 bottles of AH. I only managed to afford 1 bottle of AD and 4 bottle of AH from PHF in a panic rush. Not sure how I should space these out now. Which of these plans seem smarter?



1.
- 3x AD (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (16 weeks)

2.
- 3x AD (8 weeks) & 6x AH (16 weeks)

3.
- 3x AD & 3x AH (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (12 weeks)

4.
- 3x AD & 6x AH (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (8 weeks)


Which one looks smarter?

[h2s]

I originally wanted to do these cycles

3x AD, 6x AH (8 weeks)
6x AH (16 weeks)

Would require 1 bottle of AD and 6 bottles of AH. I only managed to afford 1 bottle of AD and 1 bottle of AH from PHF in a panic rush. Not sure how I should space these out now. Which of these plans seem smarter?



1.
- 3x AD (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (16 weeks)

2.
- 3x AD (8 weeks) & 6x AH (16 weeks)

3.
- 3x AD & 3x AH (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (12 weeks)

4.
- 3x AD & 6x AH (8 weeks)
- 6x AH (8 weeks)


Which one looks smarter?

I am confused how you would run AH that long with 1 bottle.

[Mr_math]

Along with h2s' comment, what are your goals? Aside from wanting to run the 2 products..

[Anonymous]

I edited the mix up. I have 4 bottles of AH in shipping.

I'm 22 and I want to run the AD for the neurogenesis factor that both DHEA and Pregnenolone offer. There are other cognitive effects I am looking at with AD and I also see AH as a good add on to keep things androgenic since DHEA raises E2 and Pregnenolone raises Progesterone along with a CNS boost. With my IQ I have a great comprehension score and others are above average but my processing speed is quite slow. I'd really like to experience the speed boost from AD and the mental endurance the pregnenolone could give (Supplemented regular pregnenolone, it works. I want that timed release bonus with AD) and I want to utilize this to opportunity to re train my behavior if you get my drift. Have 2 months of being faster, more energetic, more enthusiastic, more productive, less passive, and all around better. I live a lift where I am just a step behind and too slow to keep up mentally without pushing myself to mental exhaustion. Speed could be life changing for me and I see AD as capable of offering more mental speed than any nootropic I tried.

Other than that I'm quite thin. I'm like 5'10 and 150lbs (probably lost weight over midterms) with 3 years of lifting from 120lbs, and even that 120lbs included years of lifting on and off during high school where I was once 5'9" 137 4.6% bf. Holding onto gains is a struggle, I lose it too easy. Even if AndroHard is a slower rise up there at least the gains are dense and solid and I'd lose less later. Also at my age since I am not 25 yet I am holding off on what I use. I figured only DHT with few exceptions only if I can keep things androgenic. I'm looking at this more holistically than just muscles and endocrinology, developmentally I don't want anything besides DHT at the moment. AD is an exception because right now my window for cognitive enhancement is much more open now than it will be after 25-28 and behaviorally I should have a better chance of keeping the self effects AD has to offer than later. I was planning to use AH to keep AD under control estrogen/androgen wise while allowing some gains and cognitive edge, and than finalizing everything with a 16 week AH cycle

One last thing. My test is around 680 ng/dl but my T/E ratio is trash and I'd probably be over the reference range for E if I was fat. I also want to use AH to rewire my androgen and estrogen receptors. Excluding that 16 week Anti-Gyno stuff for estrogen antagonism I read some stuff in the past to believe that DHT could bring up androgen receptor density for the long run. A fix in the T/E ratio may fix the acne I still get and even my hair loss. I know DHT is the enemy to hair but I got that solution covered.


edit: one more

I'd like to be ridiculously strong for my size which at a goal of 165-175 I wouldn't be so huge. I have a thin bone structure so say I go to the school gym on campus, I will out row, out press, out squat, and sometimes out curl these guys who look bigger than me. I lol inside when they tell me it's too heavy and I nail clean reps anyway. AndroHard would be great for that.

[h2s]

Honestly man, I am not sure I can give a comfortable recommendation. Your situation is unique, so you should go into it knowing you will have to experiment to find the right spot dose wise for both products.

[Anonymous]

Is that idea of doing 8 weeks of AD and 16 weeks of AH all in one cycle a practical idea? Other than 3x AH to just curb the estrogenic sides of AH, is this considered too little for making gains in the case of example #3? AH and AD are some of the least potent for building mass that I'd be doing 3x gels of.

I'm leaning with the idea of examples 2 and 3


I suppose my direction with this is too hard to advise on, main reason I didn't throw it in the OP. I'll weigh my options with everything else. I'm just wondering what stack routines would likely lead to more gains or if there is a better way. I could get lucky and find more AH on trades or Ebay later but I can't afford more right now and doubt any sites will still have it later.

[h2s]

Is that idea of doing 8 weeks of AD and 16 weeks of AH all in one cycle a practical idea? Other than 3x AH to just curb the estrogenic sides of AH, is this considered too little for making gains in the case of example #3? AH and AD are some of the least potent for building mass that I'd be doing 3x gels of.

I'm leaning with the idea of examples 2 and 3


I suppose my direction with this is too hard to advise on, main reason I didn't throw it in the OP. I'll weigh my options with everything else. I'm just wondering what stack routines would likely lead to more gains or if there is a better way. I could get lucky and find more AH on trades or Ebay later but I can't afford more right now and doubt any sites will still have it later.

Honestly, it could be fine do that, depending on how you feel (you could always cut it shorter).

Are two and four the same? That is the one I would probably choose (16 weeks hard, 8 weeks AD).

[BBG]

I don't know if you've heard of cerebrolysin, but if not, do a little research on that. It's really just food for thought, but it seems like something you would be interested in tampering with. Datbtrue forums has decent info on it.

As for your cycle, I agree with H2S, I don't know how to advise you on this.

Seems like a waste of Androhard to just run it solo since it really shines when run with other compounds (but I have run it solo and liked it then, too).

[Anonymous]

Honestly, it could be fine do that, depending on how you feel (you could always cut it shorter).

Are two and four the same? That is the one I would probably choose (16 weeks hard, 8 weeks AD).

#2 is one cycle going straight through. #4 is stopping at 8 weeks on both and doing another 8 weeks AH later.

I don't know if you've heard of cerebrolysin, but if not, do a little research on that. It's really just food for thought, but it seems like something you would be interested in tampering with. Datbtrue forums has decent info on it.

As for your cycle, I agree with H2S, I don't know how to advise you on this.

Seems like a waste of Androhard to just run it solo since it really shines when run with other compounds (but I have run it solo and liked it then, too).

70$ per injection of it unless I find some amazing source. I'm not afraid of pinning but I'd have to hide this stuff somewhere in the fridge and I still live at home. It's not practical at the moment and I have other ideas for neurogenesis.

[h2s]

I don't know if you've heard of cerebrolysin, but if not, do a little research on that.

If you go this route at some point, pay more for a better source. Seriously.

#2 is one cycle going straight through. #4 is stopping at 8 weeks on both and doing another 8 weeks AH later.

Oh then 4. If gyno reduction isn't the goal, no need to run for 16 weeks.