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    A 1k Club Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) weekend's Avatar
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    hmmm...

    i have used hcg on my cycle consistently from week 2 and i have pretty significant atrophy... probably 40% smaller than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    hmmm...

    i have used hcg on my cycle consistently from week 2 and i have pretty significant atrophy... probably 40% smaller than usual.
    That's not what I wanted to hear.
    I have a 16wk cycle coming up this year and planned to run HCG from week 2-16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scope75 View Post
    That's not what I wanted to hear.
    I have a 16wk cycle coming up this year and planned to run HCG from week 2-16.
    Why not start the day after the first test shot??

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007 View Post
    How have you accomplished this? how much and how often do you use hcg?
    I haven't used hCG since September when I last used Deca. One of the things that I think has helped is that I run only moderate doses and my cycle is built around just testosterone. January 16th will be one full year and, during that time, I've been at 500mg for 5 months, 250mg for 4 months, 750mg for 6 weeks, and 375mg for 8 weeks (current dose). I've used two orals during this time: Epi (50mg for 50 days) and UD (16-20mg for 42 days). Deca was used collectively for 6 months in the year at 400mg for 3 months and 200mg for 3 months (joint support), Ace was 6 weeks at 50mg ED, and, now, 1T at 500mg.

    Outside of the initial atrophy, there has not been additional atrophy since month two. There is not a date that I have in mind when I plan to fully come off, but there are two things that I'm anticipating to happen and either one would cause me to cease: acceptance into UT for my PhD (hook 'em, bitches) or totaling elite.

    Quote Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007 View Post
    Why not start the day after the first test shot??
    No need for immediate usage of hCG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    hmmm...

    i have used hcg on my cycle consistently from week 2 and i have pretty significant atrophy... probably 40% smaller than usual.
    pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007 View Post
    Why not start the day after the first test shot??
    Before I placed my order it seemed like most started HCG after 2 weeks but now it seems like HCG from day 1 is best.
    I'll see about picking up more HCG and just run it from the get go, and do some more research.
    Last edited by Scope75; 01-09-2013 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    No need for immediate usage of hCG.
    When do you recommend starting HCG, at what dose and how often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scope75 View Post
    Before I placed my order it seemed like most started HCG after 2 weeks but now it seems like HCG from day 1 is best.
    I'll see about picking up more HCG and just run it from the get go.
    Where the fuck are you getting this information? People get more and more irrational with anabolics by the day it seems. hCG's primary role has nothing to do with testicular atrophy; it's for HPTA health. You're not going to avoid atrophy with hCG. Your only hope is to minimize atrophy and your HPTA axis will not be markedly suppressed for several weeks if using long-estered AAS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scope75 View Post
    When do you recommend starting HCG, at what dose and how often?
    Depends on cycle dosages and compounds. 6 weeks of P or 12-14 weeks of E will not need hCG. A longer (16-20 weeks) cycle with multiple compounds is when, IMO, it should be utilized, but protocol is changing. The desensitization BS that you read with higher doses for 6-10 weeks is broscience.
    Last edited by Rodja; 01-09-2013 at 08:03 AM.
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    My cycle will be
    Test E@500 for 14 weeks
    Dbol@50 1-5
    Var@50 10-16
    HCG@350ui eod 2-16
    Aromasin 12.5 ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scope75 View Post
    My cycle will be
    Test E@500 for 14 weeks
    Dbol@50 1-5
    Var@50 10-16
    HCG@350ui eod 2-16
    Aromasin 12.5 ED
    I'd lower the dose of dbol first as I highly doubt you need 50mg. I actually just had a conversation on Sunday about dbol and how dosing went from 20-30mg to 50mg in a span of a couple of years. You're on for 16 weeks and taking hCG for 15 of those weeks. Scally's recent protocols (granted, this is for fertility and failed PCT) is only the final 2-3 weeks prior to PCT of hCG.
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