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    What AI and serm do you recommend having on hand when running tren?
    Should the AI just be started with the tren or wait to see if you really need it?

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    letro from day 1
    clomid or torem

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    What djm said. Although I prefer clomid to torem since torem is so often faked.

    I'd also have raloxifene on hand before starting the cycle coz you probably will get the beginnings of gyno no matter what AI you take.

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    This is one of the first videos/articles that talks about the mitochondrial expression, which causes the hot feeling, and nutrient repartitioning from insulin sensitivity, but I raised an eyebrow regarding the carb/fat intake and BF loss.
    M. Ed. Ex Phys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This is one of the first videos/articles that talks about the mitochondrial expression, which causes the hot feeling, and nutrient repartitioning from insulin sensitivity, but I raised an eyebrow regarding the carb/fat intake and BF loss.
    I knew it caused the body to burn off excess calories, but I did not know this happened at the mitochondrial level. I never really questioned "how or why". And like you, the carb/fat information made me think "based on what research?" I won't say it is incorrect, but I'm just not sure that information has been tested yet. If this is true, then a moderate carb, low fat, high protein diet would be far more effective for fat loss on Trenbolone than a low carb Primal-style diet.
    All advice given is for entertainment value only. And it's free. Take it for what it's worth.

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    ^^^ill let you know😉

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    ^** that should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    ^^^ill let you know😉
    I thought you were never using tren again? You weakened already?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamy View Post
    I thought you were never using tren again? You weakened already?!
    since you said you experienced all the mental sides, with low test and letro, were you able to completely avoid them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamy View Post
    I thought you were never using tren again? You weakened already?!
    hgh is too fkn expensive man.....i truly was gonna just do that n test here on out....but 5-6kits today is alot more than 2 vials of tren e.........tbh i dont feel like running anything......sadly i was horribly sick all holiday and i shrunk and i only get big when im pumped up at the gym, its fkn shitty lol.........i might just run some of the human grade bac02 that ippy was raving about

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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    since you said you experienced all the mental sides, with low test and letro, were you able to completely avoid them?
    i got them the first time too, towards the end, second/last time, nada

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