What do YOU Use for Energy?

[xxiv]

taken well over a month off. and i didnt even use it for that long. i mean literally, less than a month total of using it

How long have you been using stims in general? Perhaps you need a detox.

[nate3993]

How long have you been using stims in general? Perhaps you need a detox.

were talking extreme minimal stim usage for years.

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Rodja! I love thermogum too, I picked up 20 packs on sale from nutra not so long ago. It's crazy.

[nate3993]

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Rodja! I love thermogum too, I picked up 20 packs on sale from nutra not so long ago. It's crazy.

i've been interested in trying something with some 1,3dm. i take it it's a lower dose, which is good because i don't wanna suppress my appetite. i shall try this. it's dirt cheap too. how long u guys find it lasts?

[Rodja]

i've been interested in trying something with some 1,3dm. i take it it's a lower dose, which is good because i don't wanna suppress my appetite. i shall try this. it's dirt cheap too. how long u guys find it lasts?

I chew it like a piece of nicotine gum: chew is for about 15s and then tuck it like a dip for a few minutes and repeat. There's enough kick to get you moving for awhile.

[Scope75]

I chew it like a piece of nicotine gum: chew is for about 15s and then tuck it like a dip for a few minutes and repeat. There's enough kick to get you moving for awhile.

That's exactly how I use it too.
Either tuck it into your lip like a dip or hold it under your tongue.
They pack enough punch to wake me up from falling asleep at the wheel and continue to drive for another 2hrs.

[xxiv]

were talking extreme minimal stim usage for years.

That's odd then..... I hardly drink caffine so a pre w/o stime gets me crazy. Assault had me out of my mind. It takes me months to go through a tub and I share it with people that come lift with me.
I would think with minimal usage you'd be a long term responder.

Do you take then on an empty stomach?

[nate3993]

My favourite for energy is yerba mate. it doesn't give me jitters like too much coffee. and you can use much higher doses than green tea without ruining the taste.

any kind of stimulant is going to be a short term solution. nate, with the issues you've posted about in other threads i'd be super cautious about their usage. better solutions, in my opinion, would be herbal adaptogens.

which do u suggest?

That's odd then..... I hardly drink caffine so a pre w/o stime gets me crazy. Assault had me out of my mind. It takes me months to go through a tub and I share it with people that come lift with me.
I would think with minimal usage you'd be a long term responder.

Do you take then on an empty stomach?

and yes i do

[pman42]

which do u suggest?

Herbs, I find, are quite individual for people. I do really well on several different adaptogens like maca, siberian eleuthero, GOOD quality ginseng, gymnostema and astragalus. the latter 2 are not really too impressive on their own but I find they add to the effects of others. oh and certain tonic mushrooms are supposed to be adaptogens. I was told my a mycologist who studied the eastern european literature that THEY are the adaptogen stars of the east, not the other ones mentioned. but mushrooms are more subtle, and the average westerner may not even notice them.

I seem to be a rhodiola non-responder. maybe it's because i've yet to try a proper extraction one-- I've read that there are differing schools of thoughts on which are the 'active' components. anyway the others work so well for me that i never put too much research into it but maybe one day i will buy a primo rhodiola extract and try it out.

[markam]

Herbs, I find, are quite individual for people. I do really well on several different adaptogens like maca, siberian eleuthero, GOOD quality ginseng, gymnostema and astragalus. the latter 2 are not really too impressive on their own but I find they add to the effects of others. oh and certain tonic mushrooms are supposed to be adaptogens. I was told my a mycologist who studied the eastern european literature that THEY are the adaptogen stars of the east, not the other ones mentioned. but mushrooms are more subtle, and the average westerner may not even notice them.

I seem to be a rhodiola non-responder. maybe it's because i've yet to try a proper extraction one-- I've read that there are differing schools of thoughts on which are the 'active' components. anyway the others work so well for me that i never put too much research into it but maybe one day i will buy a primo rhodiola extract and try it out.

You do need to take Rhodiola on a empty stomach and it needs to build up in your system for a week or so for maximum effect.