Ph's for grappling

[Rulk]

ph's for grappling.. Bad idea or good idea? I want to lift in conjunction with grappling soon and want to recover from both, but also not lose a lot of strength due to the nature of the cardio centric workout that is grappling.

[AresTS]

Increased recovery + aggression seems win win to me.

Also, doing powerful movements should help translate that strength over into the grappling world nicely : )

- Valdez

[Airborne42]

As far as a good ph for this as a fighter somethin that helps you keep your weight class but ups strength and aggression. Halotestin. Choice of fighters and powerlifters... The prob is no ph of it :-/

[harbonah]

Eq-plex would be great if it was still legal increases in endurance... Small weight gain but I'd go with standrol should help with aggression and energy probably won't have to move any weight classes either very little muscle gain at 600-800 mg range. Joints might be a problem though I'd hit the fish oil hard.

[AresTS]

As far as a good ph for this as a fighter somethin that helps you keep your weight class but ups strength and aggression. Halotestin. Choice of fighters and powerlifters... The prob is no ph of it :-/

Not to mention its one of the most dangerous...

- Valdez

[nate3993]

Not to mention its one of the most dangerous...

- Valdez

halotestin one of the most dangerous? how come? i know it's 17aa, but SD seems more dangerous and that was legal at one point.

[Rodja]

halotestin one of the most dangerous? how come? i know it's 17aa, but SD seems more dangerous and that was legal at one point.

It's very hepatotoxic. It's essentially a pure androgen.

For grappling, something mild that improves recovery would be your best bet. Potent compounds will lower endurance and cause too much of a pump in certain areas. I don't even know what the hell is even out there anymore, but something like epi at 20mg/day would be a good idea.

[nate3993]

wht about a dht precursor like 1-alpha test. or is that a bad idea?

[Rodja]

wht about a dht precursor like 1-alpha test. or is that a bad idea?

Don't know what that is.

[ryansm]

For grappling, something mild that improves recovery would be your best bet. Potent compounds will lower endurance and cause too much of a pump in certain areas. I don't even know what the hell is even out there anymore, but something like epi at 20mg/day would be a good idea.

^^^This is true with any athletic sport (I guess I should quantitatively define athletic and sport...) anyway go with DHT based hormones and if you want to stay away from methyls any of the stano clones are a good option. I would up my water intake drastically and find ways to help joints out as much as possible though