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    if cell division does not work, and one needs to know where they come from, hence supporting their argument for a god created universe, who created god please? i have to know

    no one took biology or genetics???

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    Each generation, according to Evolution should grow stronger, healthier, have bodies that are disease resistant, and would trend into a more superior species than human. Yet, over the 4,000 years of history that we do have, we see no changes in human bodies that could be said to be trending into a "superhuman". Disease is still with us and peak lifespan is really no greater when you figure in environmental and medicinal factors.
    first recorded man is 6million years old, to expect big changes inside 4000yrs which is a blip on the scale, is far fetching
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    Since we do have modern medicine keeping the fat and unfit alive, don't you think we would also see the same modern medicine giving a distinct advantage to the more genetically superior, and that they, in turn, would have children more genetically superior to them? Then how is it that two healthy, fit individuals with zero health or genetic issues can have a child that gets cancer? Or gets Down's Syndrome? Autism and other unexplainable abnormalities are rampant today, and being born in huge numbers by healthy couples. This is becoming more common, rather than less. The curve for evolution of a species should trend continually upward, not up, then down.
    computers, cell phones, tanning beds, pick one.........cognitive delays and diseases have increased 80% in the last 2 decades (i might be off), we as humans are doing something different thats causing this, and if one were to push me for an answer its the above, something new has been incorporated into our lives thats causing damage somewhere, beit via radiation or something of the like

    the us population has a rate of autism almost 1:100, in africa, nigeria, somalia, ect, the rate is closer to 1:1500.....cases are predominant in wealthy families mmmmmmm wonder what it could be

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    The Human race has 'jumped the shark'*

    *Someone out there must know what that means.

    Edit. There you go..... Jumping the shark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    first recorded man is 6million years old, to expect big changes inside 4000yrs which is a blip on the scale, is far fetching
    and even then there's noticeable signs of evolution, such as height. humans evolve through sexual selection rather than ecological selection, so it is a sign of evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    and even then there's noticeable signs of evolution, such as height. humans evolve through sexual selection rather than ecological selection, so it is a sign of evolution.
    theres reptiles that have evolved slowly over 150million yrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    first recorded man is 6million years old, to expect big changes inside 4000yrs which is a blip on the scale, is far fetching
    This timeline assumes a lot. Carbon dating was created using some bold assumptions in order to create the dating system they established as "scientific". Libby, who originated the process, assumed that earth's atmosphere was identical to today's atmosphere when making calculations. Without a valid starting point, you cannot have a valid end point, or age calculation.

    The Great Flood, recorded in history with many civilizations (not just the Bible), would have buried with it, large amounts of carbon-based life. Fossil fuels indicate a massive amount of vegetation in the past. This means the carbon content of in living organisms could have been as much as 500 times what we have today. Yet carbon dating does not take this into account.

    computers, cell phones, tanning beds, pick one.........cognitive delays and diseases have increased 80% in the last 2 decades (i might be off), we as humans are doing something different thats causing this, and if one were to push me for an answer its the above, something new has been incorporated into our lives thats causing damage somewhere, beit via radiation or something of the like

    the us population has a rate of autism almost 1:100, in africa, nigeria, somalia, ect, the rate is closer to 1:1500.....cases are predominant in wealthy families mmmmmmm wonder what it could be
    I worked with autistic kids for several years, and socioeconomically, they "appeared" to come from middle class, both upper and lower ranges of that class. Having said that, middle class in America is beyond wealthy in comparison to 3rd world countries. And there are certainly factors at play that we do not fully understand. My point wasn't simply about autism, though. In evolution, you would think that a more developed human DNA strand would arise. We have seen that happen actually, with those with Down's Syndrome having an extra chromosome. But rather than said chromosome giving someone super strength or more cognitive ability, it renders them mentally challenged. Otherwise healthy and fit individuals with what might be thought of as superior genetics, do not guarantee a genetically pure or superior child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    and even then there's noticeable signs of evolution, such as height. humans evolve through sexual selection rather than ecological selection, so it is a sign of evolution.
    I can't really see qualifying height changes as evolution... that's like saying you can breed out blond hair. Sure, you can do that, but that doesn't really mean that brunettes are more evolved. (smarter, though. lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    I can't really see qualifying height changes as evolution... that's like saying you can breed out blond hair. Sure, you can do that, but that doesn't really mean that brunettes are more evolved. (smarter, though. lol)
    isnt sexual selection a form of evolution? the selection of mates leads to change in the species. If everyone wanted to bone a blond, maybe we'd evolve into a blond species in a couple of thousand years lol that'd suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    isnt sexual selection a form of evolution? the selection of mates leads to change in the species. If everyone wanted to bone a blond, maybe we'd evolve into a blond species in a couple of thousand years lol that'd suck
    I guess that would determine how someone would define Evolution. If Evolution requires "evolving", then I don't see the correlation. Two people have a child which is no more evolved than the parents. That offspring mates with another and has a child that is not more evolved than the parents. And so on.

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    If everyone wanted to bone a blond, maybe we'd evolve into a blond species in a couple of thousand years lol that'd suck
    But it could never happen... men aren't that patient or that picky when it comes to sex. haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    I guess that would determine how someone would define Evolution. If Evolution requires "evolving", then I don't see the correlation. Two people have a child which is no more evolved than the parents. That offspring mates with another and has a child that is not more evolved than the parents. And so on.
    the theory here would be that 2 people have a child who is biologically inclined to pick the most apt mate, therefore combining favorable genetic traits and that cycle would repeat itself. humans would evolve based on those favorable traits, and obviously that would take a few thousand generations to result in any change.

    now, whether being taller is better or not is debatable, but from 4k years ago to now, humans are taller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    But it could never happen... men aren't that patient or that picky when it comes to sex. haha.
    lol yah, depending on the time of night, we'd evolve into a fat, drunk species, no?

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