AH question

[Enuke65]

Looking back at the actives in AH V3, there was 950 mg of the beta isomer, and 150 mg of the alpha isomer. Every other DHT pre-cursor thats out there is labeled as only containing the beta isomer (and the original AH is labeled as 5a-androstan-3b-ol-17-one).

What is the difference between the two, and why did PP use the blend? I'm curious because I've found a product that has the alpha isomer(redefine makes it), and was thinking of stacking supps to try and create a similar ratio that was in AH V3. I know the dosing wouldn't be as convenient as once a day, but it's something, and something is better than nothing.

Thoughts, ideas, suggestions and science are welcome.

[markam]

Bump for interesting question.

[Sorrow]

I was actually researching what other products are available to do exactly what you're asking about! Interesting timing. Hope someone can help with this.

[burlyman30]

I seem to remember Eric saying that the original AH was not actually androsterone, but epiandrosterone. I believe the the theory was that the a isomer had more anabolic effectiveness, so AH was reformulated in AH2 but the unexpected side effect was lethargy. AH3 added in the epiandrosterone in a ratio that was thought to combat this. I believe that the a isomer had an effect on the GABA receptors, causing the drowsiness.

Maybe h2s or one of the other former PP reps can add to this or correct me where I am off track.

[josh]

they both convert to DHT via two step processes, but the conversion rate of the alpha (3-alpha-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one or androsterone) is higher than that of the beta (3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one or epiandrosterone) Both androsterone and epiandrosterone will ultimately both will convert to DHT just at different rates

I would look into AMS or forerunner. I believe they make a comparable product to AH

[Turbo6GN]

I seem to remember Eric saying that the original AH was not actually androsterone, but epiandrosterone. I believe the the theory was that the a isomer had more anabolic effectiveness, so AH was reformulated in AH2 but the unexpected side effect was lethargy. AH3 added in the epiandrosterone in a ratio that was thought to combat this. I believe that the a isomer had an effect on the GABA receptors, causing the drowsiness.

Maybe h2s or one of the other former PP reps can add to this or correct me where I am off track.

I can say anecdotally that I was absolutely crushed by the lethargy of AH/AM V2. A very surprising and unwanted side effect. Tough to have that "Alpha" feeling when you just want to nap all afternoon lol

[Enuke65]

Thanks guys, I'll look at forerunner, I think I know which product you're talking about(5A-Test), and I'm pretty sure it's just the beta isomer.
I think I'm gonna try and put something together that utilizes both alpha and beta isomers, or try to at least. Details to follow.

[Jelisej]

Why not use masteron instead?

[Enuke65]

... That's a good question...

[josh]

Also hasn't nutraplanet picked up the Andro series line under the brand androgains?

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