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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    ephedrine is legal up here
    It's so ridiculous how f'ing stupid Health Canada is-- can't get tons of stuff that's perfectly safe and effective, yet ephedra is widely available in unrestricted quantities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pman42 View Post
    It's so ridiculous how f'ing stupid Health Canada is-- can't get tons of stuff that's perfectly safe and effective, yet ephedra is widely available in unrestricted quantities.
    UK is much better. Eph is banned but you can still get M14-ADD and SD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freepressright View Post
    Why not just order some Clenbuterol and call it a day?
    Honestly, I don't know much about Clen. I've never used it but it sounds like it is very catabolic and doesn't discriminate between burning fat or muscle, then again that may be true with most fat burners. It seems like most people only use Clen when on cycle so as to preserve muscle and burn fat. IDK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackswift View Post
    Honestly, I don't know much about Clen. I've never used it but it sounds like it is very catabolic and doesn't discriminate between burning fat or muscle, then again that may be true with most fat burners. It seems like most people only use Clen when on cycle so as to preserve muscle and burn fat. IDK
    i may be relying on old bro science from somewhere i cant remember, but clen is not catabolic, am i way off?

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    its not, but generally any diet regimine is catabolic, and many include clen

    ephedrine has a 4-5hr half life vs 36hrs for clen......eph seems smoother, you can sleep, no jitters, ect, reduces appetite in many, all traits clen does not exhibit..........im not saying eph is better, im saying for me its better.....i hate the general uneasiness clen gives me

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    its not, but generally any diet regimine is catabolic, and many include clen

    ephedrine has a 4-5hr half life vs 36hrs for clen......eph seems smoother, you can sleep, no jitters, ect, reduces appetite in many, all traits clen does not exhibit..........im not saying eph is better, im saying for me its better.....i hate the general uneasiness clen gives me
    never taken either lol just remember reading info that clen is actually anti-catabolic

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    Just have to say to those that haven't tried ECA, it has by far the best appetite suppression compared to any other otc product, i.e. Dim 1,3 (Geranamine), etc. In fact Dim 1,3 is great for energy and not bad at appetite suppression, but nothing really compares to ECA, imo.

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    how important is the aspirin in ECA? does it aid at all in the fatburning process or is it simply to control high bp from the stack?

    Also you can still get bronkaid, i just picked up a 60 pack form my CVS and im in NYC which seems to be a lot stricter then most areas when it comes to medical laws.

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    I don't and never will understood why people make such a big deal out of appetite suppression. You still need to eat on a cut, and there's better ways to fix your diet than not eating.

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    ECA STACK QUESTIONS-Help

    ^^^ agreed unless flat is a good look

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