Andromass V.2 and HCG

[Grape Ape]

If you haven't noticed by my recent threads, I'm planning out my future Andromass v.2 cycle for the future.

After experiencing hard shutdown in the past, with very long slow recovery, I've decided not to run anything to strong these days, and to leave little up to chance. I might not even run this at all. However, I'd like to minimize suppression/ease PCT if I do. So without any further ado:

Is there any advantage to running HCG during an 8 week V.2 cycle? Or would it be a waste of money better spent on PCT?

How suppressive would anyone suggest AM V.2 to be in compares to 4 weeks Superdrol, 6 weeks H-Drol or 8-12 weeks Test-E?

[longBallLima]

I don't think AM fully suppresses LH. Wouldn't see that much use for HCG honestly, but most guys here know way more than I do and might tell you differently.

[Scope75]

I've been on AM coming up in 5 weeks and my balls feel the same size to me if not larger. Lol
I feel alpha and lean mass is coming in. I started out at 6caps a day the first 4 weeks and then bumped it to 8caps a day and things are going good.

Total time on am will be 10-12 weeks.

[markam]

If you want to minimise suppression, keep to the once a day dosage and shorten the cycle to 6+ weeks by upping the dosage, ( I'm presuming you have two bottles). If that's all you're running, you should be fine. Multiple doses throughout the day are much more suppressive than once a day, and AM will be a lot easier to recover from than the other substances you've mentioned.

[burlyman30]

I think any time you limit your body's shutdown response it will always be an advantage when it comes time for recovery. HCG keeps the leydig cells nice and plump (as well as the testicles themselves). The less compromised they leydig cells are, the better job they can do once you start PCT. If you are wanting to take the least amount of chance of recovering poorly, then yes, HCG is definitely worth it. Keep in mind that HCG can also raise estrogen levels and you may want to have an AI on hand for this. Stop the HCG when you stop the AM v2 and start your PCT the next day.

On guessing of the suppressive nature of AM v2 vs. the other compounds you mentioned, some of that will vary by the individual. Some guys shut down faster than others, regardless of the compound. Best guess I would have would be 1/2 to 2/3 the shutdown response in comparison to the other compounds.

[Grape Ape]

I feel the same way, but just want the reassurance. Of course if it willl at all make a positive difference, I won't be sacrificing anything.

I always felt/thought that the 1-DHEA was relatively suppressive.

[markam]

I've been on AM coming up in 5 weeks and my balls feel the same size to me if not larger. Lol
I feel alpha and lean mass is coming in. I started out at 6caps a day the first 4 weeks and then bumped it to 8caps a day and things are going good.

Total time on am will be 10-12 weeks.

That was my experience until I added EPI in. Could almost see my nuts shrinking. Not good.

[burlyman30]

If you want to minimise suppression, keep to the once a day dosage and shorten the cycle to 6+ weeks by upping the dosage, ( I'm presuming you have two bottles). If that's all you're running, you should be fine. Multiple doses throughout the day are much more suppressive than once a day, and AM will be a lot easier to recover from than the other substances you've mentioned.

Good advice for minimizing suppression. I would venture to say the cycle would be less effective with less-steady blood levels and shorter duration of cycle, but definitely better for reducing suppressive effects. Reps inbound.

[Grape Ape]

Thank you Burly. I think I will add the HCG for the extra reassurance. Not overly expensive.

[Jelisej]

I think any time you limit your body's shutdown response it will always be an advantage when it comes time for recovery. HCG keeps the leydig cells nice and plump (as well as the testicles themselves). The less compromised they leydig cells are, the better job they can do once you start PCT. If you are wanting to take the least amount of chance of recovering poorly, then yes, HCG is definitely worth it. Keep in mind that HCG can also raise estrogen levels and you may want to have an AI on hand for this. Stop the HCG when you stop the AM v2 and start your PCT the next day.

On guessing of the suppressive nature of AM v2 vs. the other compounds you mentioned, some of that will vary by the individual. Some guys shut down faster than others, regardless of the compound. Best guess I would have would be 1/2 to 2/3 the shutdown response in comparison to the other compounds.

Excellent post, I only think that PCT should start 2-3 days after cesation of HCG as HCG has half life of 30 hrs, and HPTA will not start recovering until HCG clears of the system, or other option is- last HCG injection should be couple days before cycle end.

As for HCG, I would go for around 125 mcg every day, or 250 every other day. You may slightly increase dosage if required.