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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    I dont say that you're completely wrong, just that its much better to use HCG on cycle from day 1 and try to prevent testicular atrophy- sometimes its not possible and in that cases your practices are valid- though I would not recommend more than 500 IU per shot and more than 2000 IU per week.
    Dr Shippens method of 500IU mon-fri for 3 weeks is quite well, we have done this over here for people just like this situation many times now each with good success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    He should run 13 weeks of 25mg of clomid every day or alternatively 50 mg every other day (some people react better on 50 mg every second day for some reason), then he should slowly start tappering down for another 4-8 weeks, (reducing on 75% for week or two, than 50% for couple of weeks, than 25% for week or two), in conjuction he should use AI (preferably irreversible/suicidal) like aromasin 12.5 mg 3X a week- he should run AI until 2-3 weeks after cesation of SERM.
    Other thing he should eat mixed nuts every day (they will increase testicular sensitivity to LH- its actually same thing as tocco-8.
    Vitamin d 1000 IU every day.
    I'm not fan of DAA but in this situation its very helpful.
    He should not exercise too much. Must get enough sleep.

    Now, important thing is not just recovery of HPTA- but what is also target here- to create better "set point"- we are hoping that his "body" will accept normal/higher levels of TT rather than return to 300-400 ng/dl which is far below.
    Should the AI be used through out this clomid reboot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macdon1588 View Post
    Should the AI be used through out this clomid reboot?
    My buddy is doing this reboot as well, and I'm curious about the ai while on the clomid as well and at what dosage... Or should it only be used after the SERM clears the body.

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    It should be used together, but AI (preferably aromasin) dosage should be rather small, also AI should be run bit longer than SERM.
    As for AI dosage it should be somewhat smaller dosage than person would be normaly using. On average I would say it should be between 12.5- 25mg of aromasin 3X a week, but again it depends from person to person and also some brands are more or less potent than others so that should be taken in account.

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    Need advice, didn't fully recover from PCT! please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    It should be used together, but AI (preferably aromasin) dosage should be rather small, also AI should be run bit longer than SERM.
    As for AI dosage it should be somewhat smaller dosage than person would be normaly using. On average I would say it should be between 12.5- 25mg of aromasin 3X a week, but again it depends from person to person and also some brands are more or less potent than others so that should be taken in account.
    Thank you.

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    thnx j!!!

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