AndroLean Substitute

[Jack O'Neill]

Nope, 11-spray is 11-keto and 7-spray is 7 keto, which are the same actives. 11-keto elicits different effects depending on the dose, but it is a hormone, whereas 7-keto is a DHEA metabolite and considered non repressive/hormonal by most bro scientists. 7 keto is the one used in pct. I ran 11-spray and Mechabol sometime back and leaned out nicely.

For a 4 weeks cycle of 11-spray, should I do a PCT?
And what kind of PCT? Light like a natty booster (such as Erase Pro or Testojack)

[Jackswift]

For a 4 weeks cycle of 11-spray, should I do a PCT?
And what kind of PCT? Light like a natty booster (such as Erase Pro or Testojack)

It couldn't hurt to follow up your 11-spray cycle with a DAA product(like Testforce) and an AI like Erase. Even if they are not totally needed the AI and DAA will give you a nice little test boost. Others are following up an 11-spray cycle with 7-spray and DAA as well.

I've used 11-spray several times with good results and I believe I did experience some noticeable suppression when I used 11-spray 2 x a day. Also I used a lot of sprays and covered my whole back as well, which is probably similar to running a gram a day of 11-OXO.

[markam]

It couldn't hurt to follow up your 11-spray cycle with a DAA product(like Testforce) and an AI like Erase. Even if they are not totally needed the AI and DAA will give you a nice little test boost. Others are following up an 11-spray cycle with 7-spray and DAA as well.

I've used 11-spray several times with good results and I believe I did experience some noticeable suppression when I used 11-spray 2 x a day. Also I used a lot of sprays and covered my whole back as well, which is probably similar to running a gram a day of 11-OXO.

Yep, Testforce 2 is my choice for DAA, although Intimidate is also good. Using an AI with DAA is a good idea as DAA can cause E2 sides. I've used Erase but prefer DS Triazole as it doesn't give me sore joints (compared to Erase) and is effective.

For a cheapish alternative to Androlean I'd run Stanodrol 600mgs & 11-oxo 300mgs. The PN sprays are very good but pricey.

[jw390898]

^I like the dosing recommendations for a Stano 11-Oxo combination - this could be run like that for 8 weeks with the need for only a very mild PCT at the end and should provide some very nice leaning and loss of abdominal wobble in that time.

[Jackswift]

Yep, Testforce 2 is my choice for DAA, although Intimidate is also good. Using an AI with DAA is a good idea as DAA can cause E2 sides. I've used Erase but prefer DS Triazole as it doesn't give me sore joints (compared to Erase) and is effective.

For a cheapish alternative to Androlean I'd run Stanodrol 600mgs & 11-oxo 300mgs. The PN sprays are very good but pricey.

hhhmmm, interesting. I'd like to read stano/11-oxo logs. Indeed it would be very mild and probably really useful for a cut. The 11-oxo would keep cortisol levels low and prevent going too catabolic and the Stano would help with lethargy especially if one was cutting out carbs and such for a cut. I guess you could probably gain a couple pounds on this cycle if you ate right and yeah, I bet the recovery or PCT would be fairly quick and painless. interesting.....

[Jackswift]

Throw some Mechabol in there at like 100mg a day and we got winner

[nate3993]

Throw some Mechabol in there at like 100mg a day and we got winner

Cycle becomes a bit more supressive and a SERM is need instead of an OTC pct. just wanted to put that element out there.

[jw390898]

I would also suggest Mecha and ProMag are more suited to bulking then cutting in addition to the suppression issue.

[Turbo6GN]

Throw in Epi instead of Mecha or PMag and you'd have a pretty sweet cut cycle.