Q and A

[burlyman30]

Trenazone/hdrol (PPs Tbol)/Androhard yielded nice consistent gains. Strength was approaching levels from 20 years ago.

All lean bulkers, with AH added for additional estrogen antagonism.

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

Wow that for me is one strange combination - a very dry lean product such as Epi and then a wet bulker in the form of LMG.

Did the Epi keep things dry from the LMG?

It did for me, but I get what you're saying and have heard guys complain about getting the worst of both worlds: dry achy joints + bloat. But I ran it low, 75mg on the M-LMG and 30mg on the epi and had no complaints.

[DJM]

T R E N B O L O N E
M 1 T was almost as strong

for me nothing else scrapes the surface of those two, iv used test, mast, var, oral t, hdrol, epi, x-mass, primo(prob bunk/fake tho)

[jw390898]

M1T is a very powerful product.

[nate3993]

i always thought SD and M1T were pretty much on the same level, but the more i see people's post, the more i've been led to believe that M1T is actually stronger. of course the most potent steroid ever i think is methyl tren.

[jw390898]

I would suggest M1T is more potent than Tren, presume you mean the old 19-nor based Tren variants?

SD provides leaner gains than M1T, Tren very dry and strength suited. We see a lot of people still stack SD with old Tren which is one heck of a combination - generally recommend considering Stano is included in this too for the benefits it brings in offsetting some of the less desirable aspects of SD.
There is also quite a high possibility of needing to deal with prolactin increases too so if and where the budget permits on cycle Forma is perfect. Needless to say we insist people use a SERM PCT ideally Nolva and Clomid for such a cycle but the results are incredible.

[burlyman30]

I would suggest M1T is more potent than Tren, presume you mean the old 19-nor based Tren variants?

I believe Nate was referring to Methyl Tren, not the PHs.

As for SD... I'm happy for the guys who liked their results, but that stuff was poison to me. Never felt so bad on a cycle. Ever. The M1T gains sound interesting, but doesn't really fall in line with my goals these days. I agree with the stano as a great adjunct... to just about any cycle, really.

[jw390898]

Ahh ok that would make more sense - the Tren.

SD is a bit like marmite for sides, you either find them ok or suffer, I personally agree and cannot run it myself.

Stano is like PH Viagra ;-)

[longBallLima]

I ran SD before with virtually no sides other than feeling fukkin amazing lol plus, if i'm no Patrick Arnold today, at the time, i didnt know much beyond Cycle then PCT and that was all. ignorance is a bliss i guess.

[Coolazice]

I ran SD before with virtually no sides other than feeling fukkin amazing lol plus, if i'm no Patrick Arnold today, at the time, i didnt know much beyond Cycle then PCT and that was all. ignorance is a bliss i guess.

Brand?

Dose?

Any other supps with it like a stano or something?