Quick Question. NAC, Milk Thistle & Prohormones

[markam]

Quick question: Would taking NAC, Milk Thistle the same time as pro hormones be ok? If not, how long before taking pro hormones should you allow? I understand that it's beneficial to take Aegis at the same time (need confirmation) but not sure about Milk Thistle and NAC. You'd think this would be an easy google search, but I haven't had any luck.

BTW If you're supplementing with zinc, make sure you are getting adequate copper. Magnesium and Potassium are also important in this case.

[burlyman30]

Quick question: Would taking NAC, Milk Thistle the same time as pro hormones be ok? If not, how long before taking pro hormones should you allow? I understand that it's beneficial to take Aegis at the same time (need confirmation) but not sure about Milk Thistle and NAC. You'd think this would be an easy google search, but I haven't had any luck.

BTW If you're supplementing with zinc, make sure you are getting adequate copper. Magnesium and Potassium are also important in this case.

Brolore says to preload milk thistle for two weeks prior to cycle then take it through cycle. I never really bought into the preload premise myself, so I ran it all through the cycle and PCT.

[markam]

Brolore says to preload milk thistle for two weeks prior to cycle then take it through cycle. I never really bought into the preload premise myself, so I ran it all through the cycle and PCT.

Yeah, heard that also. The one that's important to preload is Hawthorn as it initially spikes blood pressure. (I know you know this, just saying anyway).

I'm really wondering if I took NAC, milk thistle and a prohormone together, (at the same time), whether it would be detrimental to the pro hormones efficacy?

[jw390898]

^Hawthorn yes, thistle or NAC no.

Personally if using NAC I would not bother with Thistle, far greater support for the benefits of use with NAC on the liver.

I also think it highly unlikely to concern yourself with affecting the PH itself by supplementing with either or both. You could if happier dose them apart and look at half lifes for all products concerned but I would be amazed if any difference would be made and if so that it would have negative impact on the cycle.

I think sometimes in excitement and anticipation it is easy to over analyze :-)

[markam]

^Hawthorn yes, thistle or NAC no. I guess you're referring to preloading here, yes?

Personally if using NAC I would not bother with Thistle, far greater support for the benefits of use with NAC on the liver.

I also think it highly unlikely to concern yourself with affecting the PH itself by supplementing with either or both. You could if happier dose them apart and look at half lifes for all products concerned but I would be amazed if any difference would be made and if so that it would have negative impact on the cycle. OK, so not to worry about taking liver support sups at the same time as PHs.

I think sometimes in excitement and anticipation it is easy to over analyze :-) Yep, but it's something I've wondered about from time to time and eventually I need to find the answer, however trivial. LOL

Thanks for the help.

[longBallLima]

Jumping in and hijacking. What helped you guys' urinary function? Seems that Saw Palmetto isn't all it promised but was wondering if anything else helps the prostate or even kidneys.

Can't call it an issue, but I can notice some difference in the stream during cycle.

PS. - These may all be ignorant inquiries.

[markam]

Jumping in and hijacking. What helped you guys' urinary function? Seems that Saw Palmetto isn't all it promised but was wondering if anything else helps the prostate or even kidneys.

Can't call it an issue, but I can notice some difference in the stream during cycle.

PS. - These may all be ignorant inquiries.

Try upping the dose on Saw Palmetto, it works for me but it does take a while to kick in. I bought some bulk powder Saw Palmetto and made caps up containing about 600mgs extract. Cheap and it works.

[longBallLima]

Try upping the dose on Saw Palmetto, it works for me but it does take a while to kick in. I bought some bulk powder Saw Palmetto and made caps up containing about 600mgs extract. Cheap and it works.

Thanks bud, i'll give it a go!

[burlyman30]

Though some have theorized that liver support reduces effectiveness of oral PH or AAS, I can say that I have always seen the effects of those compounds just fine while using strong liver supports (TUDCA or TUDCA + milk thistle). I would say if it does diminish the effectiveness, it is at a level that is not noticeable or measurable. Since you only have one liver, I propose that you keep it as healthy as possible on cycle and get it back to normal function asap in PCT.

[longBallLima]

Though some have theorized that liver support reduces effectiveness of oral PH or AAS, I can say that I have always seen the effects of those compounds just fine while using strong liver supports (TUDCA or TUDCA + milk thistle). I would say if it does diminish the effectiveness, it is at a level that is not noticeable or measurable.

HAH very interesting stuff burly, not questioning your info, but just interested. you got any sawce on this?