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    Bloods Results

    Fellas,

    Just finished my Test E + Mast run and got bloods a couple of days after really just to see where things stand before PCT.

    Turns out liver values are pretty elevated. AST 125 and ALT 112. Should I give it some time or get on some TUDCA right away?

    Other than that, I think everything is as expected. High red blood cell values (hemoglobin and hematocrit)
    Skyrocket test and estradiol, low LH and FSH. The only other thing that came up in my pre-cycle bloods and is here again is high BUN, at 33. I'm chalking it up to high protein diet, but i've dribbled a bit more when peeing, which I considered to be some prostate enlargement. Way off?

    Sorry if some of those questions are dumb, but this is my 1st injectable cycle and I wanna make sure I do it right.

    Thanks!

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    oh, i should say. I'm on Talos

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    Just curious, what did your baseline look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bill Dwyer View Post
    Just curious, what did your baseline look like?
    hey FBD. Right before the cycle, they were a little high, but way lower than currently.
    I may be slightly off, but in no way by much. AST 53 and ALT 48.
    BUN, 31, so not much change there

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    How much water are you drinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007 View Post
    How much water are you drinking?
    Gallon a day though some days I don't quite finish it

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    Quote Originally Posted by longBallLima View Post
    Gallon a day though some days I don't quite finish it
    Did you consume alcohol frequently while on? What type of liver support did you take while on?

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    Test E & Mast shouldn't be toxic to the liver....what else are you doing to raise these levels? I would think some Aegis might help here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007 View Post
    Did you consume alcohol frequently while on? What type of liver support did you take while on?
    i dont drink at all. talos has some liver shit on it and i know i took this leftover liver fix i had for no reason, as i was not expecting any toxicity from the compounds

    Quote Originally Posted by milehighguy View Post
    Test E & Mast shouldn't be toxic to the liver....what else are you doing to raise these levels? I would think some Aegis might help here.
    my thoughts exactly. nothing else, other than a high protein diet and your normal stack of sups (gluta, crea, fish oil, ala...). can't think of anything raising those values this way


    so,alright, moving on from that, is research UDCA overkill? should i just get Aegis or any other TUDCA supp?

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    Research UDCA is overkill. As long as you don't take any more hepatoxic compounds your values should return to normal within a month or two. Just be sure to get a base before you run your next one

    I think it's worth mentioning that out of range liver panel values at the end of a cycle are more or less to be expected, and indicate stress on the organ more than anything. Even non-methylated AAS do this. A notable DS that does this would be trenazone. Also its important to note that BUN/Creatinine ratios in bodybuilders are always going to be funky on account of near universal creatine usage and high protein diets.

    That being said it certainly wouldn't hurt to run TUDCA if it gives you some peace of mind.

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