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    Established Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) Jack O'Neill's Avatar
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    Yeah you're right

    I noticed that big amount of creatine after workout with no water enough lead to painful cramps in the middle of the night.
    So I reduce the amount of creatine for my PWO shake and no creatine after. I don't drink too much on night 'cause I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night.

    Otherwise, I wake up my wife 'cause I piss or I have a painful cramp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill View Post
    Yeah you're right

    I noticed that big amount of creatine after workout with no water enough lead to painful cramps in the middle of the night.
    So I reduce the amount of creatine for my PWO shake and no creatine after. I don't drink too much on night 'cause I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night.

    Otherwise, I wake up my wife 'cause I piss or I have a painful cramp
    Oh dude, I would definitely say it is the high dosed creatine without hydration afterwards that causes it.

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    Established Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) Jack O'Neill's Avatar
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    My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Yes I think so.

    So no creatine after workout from now. Will see if it gives best night
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    In for this. Looks like a pretty sick cycle. Have you thought about shortening to 8 or 10 weeks and increasing the dose a little towards the end?
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    Established Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) Jack O'Neill's Avatar
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    My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Quote Originally Posted by BBG View Post
    In for this. Looks like a pretty sick cycle. Have you thought about shortening to 8 or 10 weeks and increasing the dose a little towards the end?
    No, didn't think about it. Which option would be the best?
    Is there a risk to keep my cycle up to 12 weeks?
    In that case which would be dosage for 8 or 10 weeks?
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Looks really good, I'm not sure how much water most people drink, but I take in about 2-2.5 gallons of water a day. That might be where the cramps are coming from. I feel you on the not wanting to wake up the wife, I get up 2-3 times per night to go to the bathroom.

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    My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Quote Originally Posted by Eden View Post
    I get up 2-3 times per night to go to the bathroom.
    my wife will kill me if I do that
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Established Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) Jack O'Neill's Avatar
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    11.12.2012

    Day 22/84 - End of Week 3/12

    Notation below is 0 if there's no effect (like I'm not in cycle), 10 if there's a max of effect

    Negative Side effects :
    Acne : 0/10
    Headaches : 0/10
    Leathargy : 2/10 (especially the first week, a bit less on the second. 8/10 on the first week)
    Prostate swelling : 5/10
    Irritability : 4/10
    Hair loss : 0/10
    Cramps : 5/10 (I stopped creatine in the PWO shake and in the end of the day to help it)

    Positive Side effects :
    Strength : 4/10 (don't think this is the placebo effect after 3 weeks. Back and legs workouts were very fine and intense. I had to increase charges because I found them too light compared to usual)
    Fat loss : 0/10 (Nothing spectacular this week - My waist increased today but I had a big good carb backloading yesterday night after legs workout)
    Muscle mass : 1/10 (feel a bit larger. just a feeling)
    Recup : 5/10 (feel great next morning after workout)

    My infos this morning (after saturday night carb refeed) :
    Weight : 87.3kg / 192.1lbs (+1.3kg/+ 1.8lbs from start)
    Waist : 85.5cm / 33'7 (same from from start - Take care to the carb backload yesterday night)
    BF (Average of several formulas) : 14.2% (-0.2% from start)

    Body evolution Graph :
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    Followed diet this week :
    Carb Back-loading :
    * Day without workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet (+/-)
    * Day with workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet until the end of workout, then Carb Backloading

    Macros
    Without workout
    Prots : 215g
    Carbs : 0g
    Fat : 215g
    Total kCal : ~2800kCal: 10% above my maintenance

    With workout
    Prots : 285g
    Carbs : 150g (200g after legs workout)
    Fat : 150g
    Total kCal : ~3100-3300kCal: Up to 30% above my maintenance

    Workouts of this week
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    For this next week, I won't make any changes 'cause I want to see how I evolved during 2 weeks consecutively.

    Karate sessions from this next week. This will add a kind of cardio sessions to my cycle

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    SUMMARY

    I think the effects of the stack had appeared from the middle of the 3rd week. Feeled stronger, recup was better. No real changes in terms of weight or waist for the moment.

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    ANNEX - ATTACHED PICTURES
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    Great details in your update Jack.

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