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    Re: My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Diet depending. Yes of course
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Re: My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Starting to up my weight since prots/fats and caps are upped

    But I feel fatter, my waist increased too

    Maybe I made a mistake by eating as much fat as prot. I just follow carb backloading protocol but this is maybe not efficient with as much as prots

    Depending of my weight/waist on monday, I will change macros with about 300/x/100 for P/C/F
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Day 36/70 - End of Week 5/10

    Notation below is 0 if there's no effect (like I'm not in cycle), 10 if there's a max of effect

    Negative Side effects :
    Acne : 0/10
    Headaches : 0/10
    Leathargy : 2/10 (especially the first week, a bit less on the second. 8/10 on the first week)
    Prostate swelling : 5/10
    Irritability : 4/10
    Hair loss : 0/10
    Cramps : 0/10

    Positive Side effects :
    Strength : 3/10 (very few changes since last week)
    Fat loss : 0/10
    Muscle mass : 4/10 (gained muscle. sure)
    Recup : 5/10 (feel great next morning after workout)

    My infos this morning :
    Weight : 88.3kg / 194.3lbs (+2.3kg/+ 1.8lbs from start)
    Waist : 85.8 cm / 33'8
    BF (YMCA + 1% ... about my real BF%) : 13.7% (-0.5% from start / no changes from last week)

    Body evolution Graph :
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    Followed diet this week :
    Carb Back-loading :
    * Day without workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet (+/-)
    * Day with workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet until the end of workout, then Carb Backloading

    Macros
    Without workout
    Prots : 270g
    Carbs : 0g
    Fat : 230g
    Total kCal : ~3200kCal: 20% above my maintenance

    With workout
    Prots : 300g
    Carbs : 200-200g
    Fat : 190g
    Total kCal : ~3300-3600kCal: Up to 40% above my maintenance

    Workouts of this week
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    Karate sessions this week, give 2 cardio sessions in the week.

    Changes for the next week :
    No changes planned for the next week cause I think all macros are correct and as I gain muscle it's fine !!!

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    SUMMARY

    Good week and posology changes are positive !
    I feel harder and bigger but not fatter ! I can see new muscles in front of the mirror
    I'm happy with this 5th week. Can't wait for what I can expect of these 5 next weeks !

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    Last edited by Jack O'Neill; 11-27-2012 at 11:27 AM.
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    Hell yeah let's see how the next few weeks treat you!
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    Day 43/70 - End of Week 6/10

    Notation below is 0 if there's no effect (like I'm not in cycle), 10 if there's a max of effect

    Negative Side effects :
    Acne : 0/10
    Headaches : 0/10
    Leathargy : 0/10
    Prostate swelling : 6/10
    Irritability : 4/10
    Hair loss : 0/10
    Cramps : 0/10

    Positive Side effects :
    Strength : 3/10
    Fat loss : 0/10
    Muscle mass : 4/10 (gained muscle. sure)
    Recup : 5/10 (feel great next morning after workout)

    My infos this morning :
    Weight : 89.5kg / 196.9lbs (+3.5kg/+ 6.6lbs from start)
    Waist : 87 cm / 34'3 (+1.5cm/+1'4 from start)
    BF (YMCA + 1% ... about my real BF%) : 14.3% (+0.1% from start/+0.6% from last week )

    Body evolution Graph :
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    Followed diet this week :
    Carb Back-loading :
    * Day without workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet (+/-)
    * Day with workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet until the end of workout, then Carb Backloading

    Macros
    Without workout
    Prots : 270g
    Carbs : 0g
    Fat : 230g
    Total kCal : ~3200kCal: 20% above my maintenance

    With workout
    Prots : 300g
    Carbs : 200-250g (more than that in reality. Too much cereals )
    Fat : 190g
    Total kCal : ~3300-3600kCal: Up to 40% above my maintenance

    Workouts of this week
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    Karate sessions this week, give 2 cardio sessions in the week.

    Changes for the next week :
    No changes planned for the next week. I will try to avoid cereals 'cause I tend to always abuse as soon as I start to eat them. So no cereals for the next week!

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    I gained some muscle this week but fat too. It remains 4 weeks and I will stay away from cereals and always eat good carbs (cereals is not friend of carb-back loading). I'm happy of this week but a little disappointer with the fat gain. That said, it is entirely my fault. I will try to change that next weeks.....

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    Last edited by Jack O'Neill; 12-03-2012 at 12:06 AM.

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    Do you think it could be a good idea to short my actual cycle from 10 weeks to 9 weeks in increasing amount of caps of each products ?

    I already did that 3 weeks ago and I upped from 6 to 8 caps for AL, 3 to 6 caps for AH and 3 to 4 pumps for AE.
    If I short the cycle, it would be like that :
    - 12 caps of AL
    - 8 caps of AH
    - 5 pumps of AE

    Is there an eventual interest to short it ? It remains normally 3 weeks before the end and results are good in term of muscle gain (less in term of strength).

    I always read that it's better to up dose during a cycle. On 9 weeks, it would give :
    For AL : 6/6/6/6/8/8/8/12/12
    For AH : 3/3/3/3/6/6/6/8/8
    For AE : 3/3/3/3/4/4/4/5/5

    Maybe it's useless and the best is to continue like today but I'd like your opinion about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill View Post
    Do you think it could be a good idea to short my actual cycle from 10 weeks to 9 weeks in increasing amount of caps of each products ?

    I already did that 3 weeks ago and I upped from 6 to 8 caps for AL, 3 to 6 caps for AH and 3 to 4 pumps for AE.
    If I short the cycle, it would be like that :
    - 12 caps of AL
    - 8 caps of AH
    - 5 pumps of AE

    Is there an eventual interest to short it ? It remains normally 3 weeks before the end and results are good in term of muscle gain (less in term of strength).

    I always read that it's better to up dose during a cycle. On 9 weeks, it would give :
    For AL : 6/6/6/6/8/8/8/12/12
    For AH : 3/3/3/3/6/6/6/8/8
    For AE : 3/3/3/3/4/4/4/5/5

    Maybe it's useless and the best is to continue like today but I'd like your opinion about that
    I'm currently doing 9 AL, 6 AH, 4 AD & 100mg 11-oxo. Not sure if there would be that much benefit in dosing higher, you need to try it, I guess. I have also been adding in 400mg 11-oxo (100mg each three hours), but I've stopped that today as it was making me feel lethargic. People dose up to 1000mg ed 11-oxo, and there is 200mg in 6xAL, but AL is better absorbed, etc. (should mention there is also 200mg 7-Keto in 6 AL before everyone reminds me ).

    So try upping the dose for a day and see how you feel. I will probably try a higher dosage but I don't think the benefits will justify the cost.

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    Re: My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    It's what I think too but I asked the question to know your opinion.

    I already suffer of lethargy with 14 caps + 4 pumps. I'm afraid it's worse with more caps
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill View Post
    It's what I think too but I asked the question to know your opinion.

    I already suffer of lethargy with 14 caps + 4 pumps. I'm afraid it's worse with more caps
    Dermacrine possibly may help with the lethargy, but as it takes a week or so to kick in, not worth it as you're nearing the end of your cycle. I'm going to stick with 9 caps AL. I was using AE but it really did a number on my skin but my legs tolerated it much better, but legs aren't the best place for application. You could try 50mgs Pregnenolone, I used the Swanson brand and it seemed to help a little,
    but I'm using AD now and that contains Pregnenolone so I don't want to OD on it. I will up my AD dosage to 5 caps tomorrow.

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    Re: My Androlean/Androhard/AndroEnhance log

    Quote Originally Posted by markam View Post
    Dermacrine possibly may help with the lethargy, but as it takes a week or so to kick in, not worth it as you're nearing the end of your cycle. I'm going to stick with 9 caps AL. I was using AE but it really did a number on my skin but my legs tolerated it much better, but legs aren't the best place for application. You could try 50mgs Pregnenolone, I used the Swanson brand and it seemed to help a little,
    but I'm using AD now and that contains Pregnenolone so I don't want to OD on it. I will up my AD dosage to 5 caps tomorrow.
    Androdrive helps with lethargy? I have a bottle nearly full
    - I see you're on that famous beer and mustard diet. How's that workin' out for ya?
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