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    Quote Originally Posted by Sperwer View Post

    In late for this, but in. I've been on trt for about 5 years now, and it's made a huge difference in my life. Hoping it does the same for you mate.
    Glad to have you in here. Thanks, Sperwer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eden View Post
    That's no good, there anything they can do to loosen up your blood vessels?
    It is really only at that level within close proximity of dosing it. I also take a relatively high dose which doesn't help. If it caused an issue for a longer period of time, I would be more concerned, but I just take it as a side of a medication I get alot more benefit from. Anything you take will always have the intended consequence and unintended consequences, an appropriate statement in a thread about TRT. Luckily it sounds like Burly has a good endo, which from everything I read, makes a world of a difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sperwer View Post
    I take an Herbalife product called Night Works, which has rather amazing vasodilation effects. It was developed by the Nobel Prize winner whose work with nitric oxide laid the basis for the viagra revolution and, while it contains nitric oxide in its proprietary formula, it has none of the cazy stimulative effects of the bodybuilding world's NO boosters. When my BP spiked on tren, this stuff brought it right back down: 140/90 - 110/63. And, yeah, in my early 60s, i don't just having morning wood but morning TIMBER. It's spendy, but worth it in my experience.
    Interesting, I will look into this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt View Post
    Wow, I had no idea that Adderall was a vasoconstrictor. I can easily get my doctor to prescribe me some, (I used to be on it myself) and take a low dose for the stim effects. Guess that idea is out the window.
    Every stimulant is. Adderall is just a really strong stimulant. It actually would have a perfect analogy to Infamy's comments on the lipid effects of Letro. Any AI will alter lipids, Letro is just a really effective AI, and thus all effects are more pronounced. Same thing to adderall and stimulants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    Interesting, I will look into this.
    Holy hell you were not kidding about cost. I will have to look into what ingredients it uses.

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    If you take this long term, I would recommend just buying the ingredients. There is some major price gauging going on selling that for nearly $80.
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    Re: Burly's TRT journey

    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    Holy hell you were not kidding about cost. I will have to look into what ingredients it uses.

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    If you take this long term, I would recommend just buying the ingredients. There is some major price gauging going on selling that for nearly $80.
    Since Arginines absorption and conversion to Nitric Oxide is terribly poor, I'd recommend bulk citrulline for pennies on the dollar in comparison. Just my initial 2 cents on the matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    Holy hell you were not kidding about cost. I will have to look into what ingredients it uses.

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    If you take this long term, I would recommend just buying the ingredients. There is some major price gauging going on selling that for nearly $80.
    Yeah, i've tried to replicate the results by just gobbling NO and citrulline et al, but the effect is not the same. You can get a 20% discount i think by signing on as a distributor and then just buying for yourself without actually otherwise bring a distributor. I get it at company cost through a friend.
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    hey bman so whats all this gonna cost? was what is the price range for your weekly or bi weekly injections if you know? and btw its good to see all you guys again

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    Re: Burly's TRT journey

    Quote Originally Posted by iron View Post
    hey bman so whats all this gonna cost? was what is the price range for your weekly or bi weekly injections if you know? and btw its good to see all you guys again
    Well, thanks to my wife's employment with a public agency, I am covered by pretty good insurance. Mostly $5 copayments after I payed the first $500 for the year. I'm not sure if there will be any unpaid portions for certain tests like the MRI, but those should be relatively low in comparison to full price.

    I haven't even gotten to the part where a script is written, but vials of test are cheap and I'll be self administering once it gets to that point.

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    Nice copay. Mine is 15$. I want to start a family, but i'm going to discuss that matter when I finally start looking into TRT more thoroughly. Need to keep my swimmers in healthy abundance.

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    Re: Burly's TRT journey

    Quote Originally Posted by NOA View Post
    Nice copay. Mine is 15$. I want to start a family, but i'm going to discuss that matter when I finally start looking into TRT more thoroughly. Need to keep my swimmers in healthy abundance.
    Have you had your levels tested to know if you are low?

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    Re: Burly's TRT journey

    Another blood draw today... just received insurance approval today for two tests related to my RBC levels so I worked that into my schedule. I am to wait a few days and the hematologist is supposed to call me and my endo with the results of those tests and my kidney ultrasound.

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