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    Quote Originally Posted by szary View Post
    they are smarter since clomid is due to containing an additional chlorine atom
    A more reactive - the doses need to be higher and could fluctuate in effectiveness
    B more toxic - it can cause some carcinogenic issues
    C does not cross the blood-brain barrier as easily (or at all) like tamoxifen
    D biding affinity to estrogen receptors are almost the same (in trials ) so no need to run 2 SERMS(in UK many run clomid and nolva)
    E effectiveness in treatment of male hypogonadism is the same ( it consists of broscience on hearsay )
    If you have access to nolva take it it's better
    a few things here have me wishing I had more time to do some reading tonight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    i think toremifene is your best bet. no sides, while clomid did give me mild emotional sides and a slightly noticeable decrease in night vision acuity.

    exemestane doesn't affect the lipid profile... might be a good addition since SOS500 has LMG (estrogenic) and SD (can cause rebound gyno)

    but i don't have experience using exemestane in PCT except just recently but i ran out on like day 10...
    this emotional issues are because clomid doesn't prevent estrogen (still high until AI will shut it down) to wreak havoc in the brain with all that "girly thinking"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal-Nutrition View Post
    a few things here have me wishing I had more time to do some reading tonight...
    not fully understand?

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    you're making some points on topics I've never seen any research on...wish I had time to dive in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal-Nutrition View Post
    you're making some points on topics I've never seen any research on...wish I had time to dive in.
    some is just evidence from "lack of evidence " like effects of treatment of hypogonadism - first claims were in 70's but even now one company is trying to market analogue of clomiphene as cure for that ...with mix results - (it's stock price tumbled after another postponement of 3rd stage trials)
    that chlorine atom makes compound less stable/ more carcinogenous it's basic chemistry
    I've read about tamoxifen and brain but haven't found anything about clomid (the evidence from broscience is even backing my point) correction - there are some low realisability sources
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    to the op, visit post 2:
    Week 4 ph cycle. Finishing help?

    you'll find the rec for the product you seek
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    I wouldn't use bromo just for the ability to convert anabolically and thats not good in PCT. Torem/clomid, with an AI the last 2 running 2 weeks after, tapered.(exem)

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