Week 4 ph cycle. Finishing help?

[Scoonie1]

I am a few days away from finishing my 4th week on double dragon SoS 500. I also purchased Forged post cycle and Forged Bromo. I admittedly didnt do the research I should have before starting this and now I don't know how to take the 2 forged products correctly. The bottle says to take the Bromo weeks 5-8 and post cycle 7-11. If this is correct then that's what I'll do, but I've got conflicting instructions from different people and forums. Also I have been told I need to get a SERM. Any suggestions or advice with that would be appreciated.
Thanks

[weekend]

SERMs

[SoCal-Nutrition]

I agree with Weekend, you should really consider a SERM.

what I would do as a combo of a SERM and what you have (I would also add some DAA):
Clomid:
50/50/25/25 (50mg a day for 2 weeks, followed by 25mg a day for 2 weeks)
DAA:
3g everyday
starting the third week of PCT, I'd start the forged post cycle

Personally, I don't like using steroidal AI's in PCT...so, I'd leave the bromo out.

[weekend]

I agree with Weekend, you should really consider a SERM.

what I would do as a combo of a SERM and what you have (I would also add some DAA):
Clomid:
50/50/25/25 (50mg a day for 2 weeks, followed by 25mg a day for 2 weeks)
DAA:
3g everyday
starting the third week of PCT, I'd start the forged post cycle

Personally, I don't like using steroidal AI's in PCT...so, I'd leave the bromo out.

does exemestane count as a steroidal AI?

in my recent experience.. an AI in PCT is a good idea, clomid sure didnt prevent gyno problems.


and damn, that SOS500 product has quite a haphazard ingredient formula...

[Scoonie1]

Im reading about the clomid and seeing that a lot of people are using nolvadex. Any thoughts on that?

[SoCal-Nutrition]

good question, I'll have to do some research on exemestane and it's effects on lipid profiles.

also, another concern I have with some steroidal AI's is continued suppression...although, it shouldn't happen with low doses.

[SoCal-Nutrition]

Citing the Sinners post on serms from "No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT"

The Different SERM’s:

Tamoxifen (Nolvadex):
Reputation: Most popular SERM for PCT
Pros: Cheap. Effective for gyno prevention.
Cons: Heptatoxicity. Studies have shown it to lower IGF levels (I don’t feel like citing, but it’s about 20% decrease…IMO no biggie).
Popular Dosage (for a 4-week cycle): 40/40/20/20
Note: Tamoxifen Citrate is less potent, and should be dosed at an extra 30%.

Clomiphene Citrate (clomid):
Reputation: Second most popular. Usually taken the first week or so to speed up Testosterone recovery with Tamoxifen being taken the whole therapy.
Pros: Better than Tamoxifen for HTPA regernation. Less heptatoxicity. Does not lower IGF.
Cons: Less effective against gyno. Can cause emotional issues. May Cause blurred vision. Hot Flashes.
Popular Dosage (for a 4-week cycle): 100-200mg/100mg/50mg/50mg

Toremifene:
Reputation: Very popular on this board
Pros: Much less toxic.
Con’s: $$$$$expensive$$$$$
Popular Dosages (for a 4-week cycle): 120-240mg/120mg/60mg/30mg

[szary]

Im reading about the clomid and seeing that a lot of people are using nolvadex. Any thoughts on that?

they are smarter since clomid is due to containing an additional chlorine atom
A more reactive - the doses need to be higher and could fluctuate in effectiveness
B more toxic - it can cause some carcinogenic issues
C does not cross the blood-brain barrier as easily (or at all) like tamoxifen
D biding affinity to estrogen receptors are almost the same (in trials ) so no need to run 2 SERMS(in UK many run clomid and nolva)
E effectiveness in treatment of male hypogonadism is the same ( it consists of broscience on hearsay )
If you have access to nolva take it it's better

[weekend]

Im reading about the clomid and seeing that a lot of people are using nolvadex. Any thoughts on that?

i think toremifene is your best bet. no sides, while clomid did give me mild emotional sides and a slightly noticeable decrease in night vision acuity.

exemestane doesn't affect the lipid profile... might be a good addition since SOS500 has LMG (estrogenic) and SD (can cause rebound gyno)

but i don't have experience using exemestane in PCT except just recently but i ran out on like day 10...

[Scoonie1]

Do you guys have any specific products I can look for? Now that Im sure you can see Im a little lost. thanks