Other PHs as good as PP

[Coolazice]

Ultradrol is now illegal.

I'm pretty sure that Ultradrol is still legal since the clones are still widely available (when in stock). Jake chose to quit making it due to the fact that no matter how pure that he tried to make it - there was still a bit of SD in there. Basically, he didn't want to risk legal repercussions from selling something that was tainted with an illegal steroid.

[Cobalt]

That could be the case, I was just under the impression that it was banned when SD finally got the cut.

[Jack O'Neill]

Ultradrol seems to be legal in UK
It's whatever still sold in UK stores.

Correction, still in stores but out of stock (like most of PP products)

[Jack O'Neill]

Didn't notice you are in France, I'm in the US.

Ultradrol will make you puffy (at least most of the time) due to glycogen uptake. If you are looking to just lean bulk, you may not want to run it. It is AL's take on Superdrol, which I'm not an expert on, so others would be a better source of info on it.

Trenazone is sick in terms of strength and size. I ran it with PP's AndroMASS v1 and put on a solid 20+ lbs in an 8 week period. I kept most of it too. I got BIG, had to get some new shirts because I was stretching out the old ones I had.
I believe I ran the max dose of trenazone, not sure what it is off the top of my head.

If lean gain is your goal, you may want to look into Mechabol. Again, haven't tried it but I've heard good of it.

As far as a solid cycle is concerned, I'd look into a good test base and stack either Trenazone and/or Mechabol with it. If you can find some AndroMASS, use that for a test base. Otherwise, I'm still searching myself.

PCT is another grey area right now. PP's TRS was fantastic for my AM/TZ cycle, but it is out of production.
Clomid should be plenty for it, or even Torem if you go the research chem route.

Don't want to be puffy at all.

I took Andromass/Androhard last year for 6 weeks (with à toooooo big increase of carbs ) and my wife told me I looked like a gorilla

Moreover my wife doesn't know I take prohormons... This could be a good idea for a new topic 'what do your wife think of your cycle?'

Anyway for my next cycle I wanted to find an equivalent to Androbulk/Androenhance. If someone may propose me something (I noted about antaeuslabs products)

[BBG]

I wonder if Antaeus will ever get into PCT products

Nothing we plan on.

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I'm pretty sure that Ultradrol is still legal since the clones are still widely available (when in stock). Jake chose to quit making it due to the fact that no matter how pure that he tried to make it - there was still a bit of SD in there. Basically, he didn't want to risk legal repercussions from selling something that was tainted with an illegal steroid.

Methylstenbolone is illegal because it has some superdrol in it. Always.

It's okay in the U.K. Check out Predator Nutrition.

Mechabol and trenazone are still very good to go. I'd suggest you guys get in on mechabol as it is one of the smoothest hormones out there right now. Very lean gains.

[AresTS]

Nothing we plan on.

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Methylstenbolone is illegal because it has some superdrol in it. Always.

It's okay in the U.K. Check out Predator Nutrition.

Mechabol and trenazone are still very good to go. I'd suggest you guys get in on mechabol as it is one of the smoothest hormones out there right now. Very lean gains.

Straight size wise - mecha or tzone?

- Valdez

[burlyman30]

Straight size wise - mecha or tzone?

- Valdez

I'd vote for mecha on size and TZ on strength

[Jack O'Neill]

I'd vote for mecha on size and TZ on strength

Mecha and TZ may be stacked?

[burlyman30]

Mecha and TZ may be stacked?

Could be, yes. But if you aren't familiar with either, I might recommend that you stack ONE of them with an androhard/stanodrol for the lean dry no bloat gains you are seeking.

[BBG]

Straight size wise - mecha or tzone?

- Valdez

It really depends... I'd probably go with trenazone here if you're going to be dosing it high enough. Burly is right though trenazone for sure is going to pack on more strength.

Plus mechabol has a tendency to lean people out (almost every log talks about this, I experienced it as well).

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Could be, yes. But if you aren't familiar with either, I might recommend that you stack ONE of them with an androhard/stanodrol for the lean dry no bloat gains you are seeking.

Great advice here.