Other PHs as good as PP

[Jack O'Neill]

Is there other PH as good and secure as Primordial PHs on the market today?

I think to Androbulk for ex.?

Or, what are the best PH on the market today with same advantages than PP products

[Cobalt]

I've been stuck with PP ever since I took the leap into PH's, rarely trying other. They are unmatched, and I doubt we'll see anything close to them for some time to come.

That being said, the only other brand of PH's that I've tried that has really done well is Antaeus Labs.
I've only tried their Trenazone, Ultradrol and Axon.
Trenazone is fantastic, going to run it again soon.
Ultradrol is now illegal.
Axon is also fantastic - good energy booster.

I really want to try their Mechabol, maybe I'll stack some with the Trenazone on my next run.

[Jack O'Neill]

What can we expect from this stack in term of lean gain?

What kind of PCT is needed after the 6 weeks? cycle ?

[Jack O'Neill]

Ultradrol seems to be legal in UK
It's whatever still sold in UK stores.

[h2s]

Ultradrol seems to be legal in UK
It's whatever still sold in UK stores.

UD would put on more size, Mechabol would be more of a lean bulker, imo. But BBG should step in this thread, he is a rep for them.

[Cobalt]

Didn't notice you are in France, I'm in the US.

Ultradrol will make you puffy (at least most of the time) due to glycogen uptake. If you are looking to just lean bulk, you may not want to run it. It is AL's take on Superdrol, which I'm not an expert on, so others would be a better source of info on it.

Trenazone is sick in terms of strength and size. I ran it with PP's AndroMASS v1 and put on a solid 20+ lbs in an 8 week period. I kept most of it too. I got BIG, had to get some new shirts because I was stretching out the old ones I had.
I believe I ran the max dose of trenazone, not sure what it is off the top of my head.

If lean gain is your goal, you may want to look into Mechabol. Again, haven't tried it but I've heard good of it.

As far as a solid cycle is concerned, I'd look into a good test base and stack either Trenazone and/or Mechabol with it. If you can find some AndroMASS, use that for a test base. Otherwise, I'm still searching myself.

PCT is another grey area right now. PP's TRS was fantastic for my AM/TZ cycle, but it is out of production.
Clomid should be plenty for it, or even Torem if you go the research chem route.

[burlyman30]

Cobalt hit it on the head. Antaeus Labs has some excellent products.

[Jack O'Neill]

Thanks.

So I'm waiting for BBG for more information about a next lean gain cycle.

[markam]

Cobalt hit it on the head. Antaeus Labs has some excellent products.

Agreed, but can't really compare methylated pro hormones to PP's Androseries as they aren't methylated.
I've never used AMS sublingual products, and I hear that you have to up the dosage on them, but they might be worth checking out.
But if you are ok with methylated products, Antaeus is the leader in that field, IMO.


Correction. Antaeus Trenazone isn't methylated but carries far more risk than Androseries. Having said that, with the correct usage, it's said to be very good, albeit milder than expected.

[Enuke65]

I wonder if Antaeus will ever get into PCT products