Athlete cycle vs bodybuilder cycle

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DJM, I've heard the same, especially about anavar. It's supposedly popular with boxers, but I couldn't understand how they'd be able to throw punches for so long once the delt pump sets in. I thought maybe they just weren't smart, haha.

Rodja, how sport specific is it? I kept my original post as general as possible to see if there was a consensus for all people seeking performance enhancement, but I thought it would only depend on 1) the sport's cardio needs, and 2) if they need to stay in a weight class.

Burlyman, I didn't know The Clear was similar to tren as far as cardio hit. That's interesting. Tren on paper sounds like the best invention since the miniskirt, but all the horror stories are a little off-putting. You really think prohormones would improve recovery to a similar extent? I figured nothing would compare to AAS.

Nate, I have to agree. That's another part of what led to my confusion. Also have to agree that those guys have ridiculous genetics. I know a guy who plays what we call semi-pro football (after college, but not in the NFL). He squats around 700 pounds, has a lot of muscle mass, and plays running back (a position generally for smaller, faster players). I look at him and I'm like what the fuck.... if this guy couldn't make it to the NFL, there must be absolute monsters playing on Sundays.

[Broly]

Nate, I have to agree. That's another part of what led to my confusion. Also have to agree that those guys have ridiculous genetics. I know a guy who plays what we call semi-pro football (after college, but not in the NFL). He squats around 700 pounds, has a lot of muscle mass, and plays running back (a position generally for smaller, faster players). I look at him and I'm like what the fuck.... if this guy couldn't make it to the NFL, there must be absolute monsters playing on Sundays.

'Strength' on the field is not the same as strength in the weight room. Jerry Rice was not a 'strong' lifter compared to other WR's or DB's yet he was still faster and more efficient on the field. I'm often envious of my fellow athletes in the weight room because I am not even close to being the 'strongest' but the roles are reversed when we hit the grid iron.

"Sports Science" has actually come up with a new way to measure abilities in the NFL combine... The thinking of current NFL scouts is medieval.

[Rodja]

'Strength' on the field is not the same as strength in the weight room. Jerry Rice was not a 'strong' lifter compared to other WR's or DB's yet he was still faster and more efficient on the field. I'm often envious of my fellow athletes in the weight room because I am not even close to being the 'strongest' but the roles are reversed when we hit the grid iron.

"Sports Science" has actually come up with a new way to measure abilities in the NFL combine... The thinking of current NFL scouts is medieval.

The only thing that's more annoying and non-applicable than the combine is Sports "Science." There's way too much emphasis on only partially related measurable stats that skew the most important part: the film. JaMarcus Russell had one of the best pro days out there and we all know how that worked (along with Ryan Leaf, Mike Mamula, Tony Mandarich, etc.).

[Broly]

The only thing that's more annoying and non-applicable than the combine is Sports "Science."

Just to clarify... I was referring to Sports Science the show

[Rodja]

Just to clarify... I was referring to Sports Science the show

I know. The show is a joke.

[Broly]

I know. The show is a joke.

I think it has it's merits... but to each his own.

[Rodja]

I think it has it's merits... but to each his own.

It's more or less an updated combine-esque show that puts pretty stats and measurements on things that have no real merit. Almost anything in a controlled environment will have very little actual carryover to the game.

[Swolesaurus]

The only thing that's more annoying and non-applicable than the combine is Sports "Science." There's way too much emphasis on only partially related measurable stats that skew the most important part: the film. JaMarcus Russell had one of the best pro days out there and we all know how that worked (along with Ryan Leaf, Mike Mamula, Tony Mandarich, etc.).

Ryan Leaf...that's a dark chapter in San Diego's history.

[USN HM 350Z]

Ryan Leaf...that's a dark chapter in San Diego's history.

A dark chapter? Aren't all the chapters in the Chargers book dark?