AAS TALK with RICH PIANA

[Coolazice]

Oh could someone school me on what "OT" stands for?

Oral Turinabol

[Broly]

Oral Turinabol

I came into the bodybuilding scene too late... all the good stuff is either gone or very hard to find

I should add that by "good stuff" I am referring to my specific goals

[Swolemizz]

I came into the bodybuilding scene too late... all the good stuff is either gone or very hard to find

I should add that by "good stuff" I am referring to my specific goals

Tbol is very easy to find... Along with any other aas..

[DJM]

Tbol is very easy to find... Along with any other aas..

this^^^😀

[O_RYAN_007]

on my 2 peritos lives dude......i think iv said in pm to you, yes its best bang for your dollar, BUT, i dont get the cutting others seem too, and my diet and training ill even go so far as to say might be better than them, i get the incredible muscular endurance and gym aggression tho, strength is up, but i notice it in reps not adding more weight, at this stage i dont really add 40lbs to lifts id rather add reps......that being said other stuff much more gentle get me those things, maybe not in the same league but close enough to trump the odd sides......this last time i cut it at 4wks, tren enth, the insomnia hit, as well us it affected my eating terribly, and my bp raised enough i didnt like it, nothing like mizz but i dont like any raise....i told myself last time not again, did it anyway, im convinced ill follow my own advice this time.......that same var you like i used at 40 and felt it good, im quite sure 60-70 would be in the tren ballpark, coupled with higher test (never used more than 500 ever, so 2 shots of t400 plus the var might do it).....everyone needs to try tren, for me sides arent terrible , have never been, but i dont feel great, test and var, or ot, mast (not afan anymore either) i feel really good.........n mizz this stuff is very potent, lab wise

i say to milehigh, ryan, ect, you try it, start on the low end, even 250mg, and climb to a dose that suits you (if its the stuff i have here its what id advise)

like pianna said, dont follow what everyone says but do what works for you.....everyone says tren is king, alot say var is for girls, ot doesnt work, deca bloats, eq not worth it, test bloats........well for me, test cuts, var is fantastic, ot works almost better than var, no deca exp, no eq exp but guys on here like them.......i tried dbol recently, big gains and makes you feel good right? after two weeks no strength, lost appetite, felt same, and wasnt bunk cause anyone else i gave it to loved it at 30mg ed and i was at 40

trial and error, nothing is one size fits all.........hell first thing i ever used was m1t, no sides and exploded, to this day strongest stuff iv touched, and if it werent for the doubt that whatever is out there isnt as pure, id prob grab some udca and try it again despite all the 'omg its terrible' talk

done

I'm glad you let that out. I feel info like this put everyone's mind to ease a bit, since we all over think shit and over analyze things. I've always appreciated your keep things simple approach, since I too myself have complicated things from time to time. I think we all like feedback from others to know what to expect if you will. I'm most def not a follower, but if I want to run something someone else has, I'll ask questions to know what to expect.

[DJM]

I'm glad you let that out. I feel info like this put everyone's mind to ease a bit, since we all over think shit and over analyze things. I've always appreciated your keep things simple approach, since I too myself have complicated things from time to time. I think we all like feedback from others to know what to expect if you will. I'm most def not a follower, but if I want to run something someone else has, I'll ask questions to know what to expect.

think it was wendler who said give them 90% of what they need n theyll worry bout the other 10

all these drugs work, try em n see which you like. omg i dont like test cause the water, fk for me compared to what it does do well, small shit
people worry bout fkn cortisol and over training or else their cycle is ruined, honestly wtf

the peptopro thread, 100 questions on timing for mike, and how to add carbs the 'best way'......jmo best way is simply put the stuff in your face, the stuff works fir recovery , so at the end of the day youve been told the best protein for recovery and still its hard for people, sip it intra or chug it post, i highly doubt the difference is noticable

guys worry so much bout what to eat, calories, when to eat it, bake it or fry it.....end of the day they dont fkn eat

imo the only only thing is be consistant
train whatever the fuck way, use whatever diet, use whatever supps or anabolics, just be consistant in what you do, i slack off we all do but be consistant more often than not and results will be there


***btw hermano, not for you jaja was general statement, i know how you are!

[O_RYAN_007]

think it was wendler who said give them 90% of what they need n theyll worry bout the other 10

all these drugs work, try em n see which you like. omg i dont like test cause the water, fk for me compared to what it does do well, small shit
people worry bout fkn cortisol and over training or else their cycle is ruined, honestly wtf

the peptopro thread, 100 questions on timing for mike, and how to add carbs the 'best way'......jmo best way is simply put the stuff in your face, the stuff works fir recovery , so at the end of the day youve been told the best protein for recovery and still its hard for people, sip it intra or chug it post, i highly doubt the difference is noticable

guys worry so much bout what to eat, calories, when to eat it, bake it or fry it.....end of the day they dont fkn eat

imo the only only thing is be consistant
train whatever the fuck way, use whatever diet, use whatever supps or anabolics, just be consistant in what you do, i slack off we all do but be consistant more often than not and results will be there


***btw hermano, not for you jaja was general statement, i know how you are!

Ya se, but I'm really glad you said it... Cause the more I feel I keep things simple and just work hard day in and day out, the better results I acquire. W're all different, and its great to ask questions and research, just keep it simple.

[DJM]

Ya se, but I'm really glad you said it... Cause the more I feel I keep things simple and just work hard day in and day out, the better results I acquire. W're all different, and its great to ask questions and research, just keep it simple.

heres a simple one

aas - improves/speeds recovery, makes you stronger, metabolizes food better generally speaking
soooo - train longer and/or more often , push harder n heavier , eat a fkn load

yet sooooo many loggers post their before and afters and you wonder for such minimal results whats the point...im speaking of the 'greener' users, as in over time results are harder to attain for the older guys, trust me, and its usually the greener users who expect lightning in a bottle and dont really push the simple steps above

[Broly]

Tbol is very easy to find... Along with any other aas..

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[Broly]

heres a simple one

aas - improves/speeds recovery, makes you stronger, metabolizes food better generally speaking
soooo - train longer and/or more often , push harder n heavier , eat a fkn load

yet sooooo many loggers post their before and afters and you wonder for such minimal results whats the point...im speaking of the 'greener' users, as in over time results are harder to attain for the older guys, trust me, and its usually the greener users who expect lightning in a bottle and dont really push the simple steps above

My first cycle was simple... split the doses three times a day, train as many hours as possible, eat, sleep and eat. I blew the fk up.... and maintained it. And the only things that changed were.....

A) Take PH's three times a day
B) Eat as much as I could
C) Train longer.