Spring Cut Critique

[Strong_Guy]

Just started my 12 week spring cut cycle and here are the details:

PHs:

Transaderm 5 pumps/day (got tired of waiting for BPS)
AHv3 6 caps/day
11 oxo caps 300mg/day, taken simultaneously with AHv3 in the morning to hopefully benefit delivery a little

Stats:

31 yo male, 6'00", 195 lbs., 14% bf, numerous Primordial product cycles under my belt.

Workouts are typical 3 day split (chest/tri's, back/bi's, shoulders/legs, all heaviest "working" weight I can do at a cal. deficit) with 30-45 mins/cardio moderate intensity each day post-lift, and a fourth day of 30-45 mins/cardio only. Trying to keep calories at less than 2000/day while keeping protein at least 200 grams/day all from cleanest food as possible supplemented with protein powder as needed.

I've ran this cycle before minus the 11 oxo and had great overall results (also was Dermacrine instead of Transaderm which I am also curious to see how it goes since it is my first time using it). I'm interested what the added benefits, if any, will be with adding the 11 oxo in the mix. Not a lot of experience with 11 oxo, with the exception of a bulk stack last fall that included Androenhance, which I wasn't too terribly impressed with (the Androenhance), so I thought I'd give it a shot this way during a cut.

Questions? Comments? Concerns? Any constructive input/discussion welcome!

Not going to do a full log, but will give periodic updates as often as possible, or at least a final brief review.

[Broly]

Just started my 12 week spring cut cycle and here are the details:

PHs:

Transaderm 5 pumps/day (got tired of waiting for BPS)
AHv3 6 caps/day
11 oxo caps 300mg/day, taken simultaneously with AHv3 in the morning to hopefully benefit delivery a little

Stats:

31 yo male, 6'00", 195 lbs., 14% bf, numerous Primordial product cycles under my belt.

Workouts are typical 3 day split (chest/tri's, back/bi's, shoulders/legs, all heaviest "working" weight I can do at a cal. deficit) with 30-45 mins/cardio moderate intensity each day post-lift, and a fourth day of 30-45 mins/cardio only. Trying to keep calories at less than 2000/day while keeping protein at least 200 grams/day all from cleanest food as possible supplemented with protein powder as needed.

I've ran this cycle before minus the 11 oxo and had great overall results (also was Dermacrine instead of Transaderm which I am also curious to see how it goes since it is my first time using it). I'm interested what the added benefits, if any, will be with adding the 11 oxo in the mix. Not a lot of experience with 11 oxo, with the exception of a bulk stack last fall that included Androenhance, which I wasn't too terribly impressed with (the Androenhance), so I thought I'd give it a shot this way during a cut.

Questions? Comments? Concerns? Any constructive input/discussion welcome!

Not going to do a full log, but will give periodic updates as often as possible, or at least a final brief review.

Good luck with the cut. Transaderm is completely different when it comes to quality of application, you'll see what I mean. You will most likely end up with a decent amount 'stuck' in the bottle and if you really want it you may have to cut the bottle down the middle to get it.

I have not run 11-oxo but from what I gather at your dosage it will be great cortisol control and provide some fat loss... maybe some muscle hardness but I'm not sure as I've never run it and dosages for muscle hardening (that I've read about) tend to be at the 600mg range

[olddawg]

You know, I've done about 6 cuts now, tried many different ph's, peps and aas's, I've settled on 500mg test and the same masteron when I get leaner, eca stack with weekends off, and that's it. I've gotten really really good at diet manipulation, combining longer cardio with hiit to the point where anything else I add is only a monetary cost and doesn't benefit the cut. Sure towards the end maybe something for hardening--if you are going to do a show but if not, test, cardio and diet are 98% of it

[Broly]

You know, I've done about 6 cuts now, tried many different ph's, peps and aas's, I've settled on 500mg test and the same masteron when I get leaner, eca stack with weekends off, and that's it. I've gotten really really good at diet manipulation, combining longer cardio with hiit to the point where anything else I add is only a monetary cost and doesn't benefit the cut. Sure towards the end maybe something for hardening--if you are going to do a show but if not, test, cardio and diet are 98% of it

And you don't lose control of cortisol after a while?

[olddawg]

never remember it being an issue, i take 1000mg vit c post wo which could be doing the trick, that and the stress of my mother in law coming over is gone now that I offed her

edit, you know, the time i cut on androlean i did lose some muscle near the end, about 6 lbs as best as I could calculate, I was down to 1200 cals a day so i blamed it on that, but cortisol could have been an issue and I didn't know it

[DJM]

And you don't lose control of cortisol after a while?

id agree with this,
alot of guys on here hate test, but iv really come around to the thinking test is best for me, i just get alot out of it
fk even tren is good but i dont get the big results others do, test tho even high burns fat for me, little water
i prefer var to mast tho
but ill second eca also

[O_RYAN_007]

id agree with this,
alot of guys on here hate test, but iv really come around to the thinking test is best for me, i just get alot out of it
fk even tren is good but i dont get the big results others do, test tho even high burns fat for me, little water
i prefer var to mast tho
but ill second eca also

I'm loving test and I've managed to keep the water off. I want to stay on it for 2 more months! Too bad I'm done with my test injects next sunday.

[DJM]

so start back up

in two months

[O_RYAN_007]

so start back up

in two months

I want to, but I need to get the wife prego first. Both of us are having baby fever, and I'm just glad I got to get in a great run in before we started trying. We won't start trying till later in may/june. This will be good since I should be finishing up pct by then. I'll do immediate post cycle bloods, then 4 wks out, and 8 wks out.

[DJM]

good luck
hcg might help with those swimmers