Nanodrol / Trenazone - 4 weeks cycle

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

I take Talos from Antaeus Labs in the same time as Tren. I thought it was enough?

Honestly you probably don't need anything for two more weeks on TZ, just saying that TUDCA wouldn't hurt. The only real precaution against it I've heard of was one against pre-loading before drinking, otherwise TUDCA seems very safe. It has been studied in humans at 500mg/day for as long as a year with no real issues. Talos has NAC correct? Two-weeks of that couldn't hurt either.

Also wondering about the UDCA recommendation. I was under the impression that TUDCA was just as effective, if not more so. Is this a bad impression?

*Edit - the folks who took TUDCA for a year at 500mg/day were liver transplantees. One-year pilot study on... [Ital J Gastroenterol Hepatol. 1999 Aug-Sep] - PubMed - NCBI

[Jack O'Neill]

The only real precaution against it I've heard of was one against pre-loading before drinking, otherwise TUDCA seems very safe.

Could you please explain what it means?

[markam]

Very surprised you didn't use TUDCA for your cycle. I'd get on it ASAP!
Aegis is TUDCA with another compound, and Antaeus is a known reputable company, so Aeigis is a no-brainier, imo.

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

Could you please explain what it means?

Sorry didn't mean to throw you off, this is a little off subject but:

TUDCA is generally very safe, but if you're planning on going out and drinking 4 bottles of wine you shouldn't take TUDCA before doing so. Rather you should take it as you drink the booze, or afterwards.

[Jack O'Neill]

Very surprised you didn't use TUDCA for your cycle. I'd get on it ASAP!
Aegis is TUDCA with another compound, and Antaeus is a known reputable company, so Aeigis is a no-brainier, imo.

But Aegis contains TUDCA. I ordered Tudca but could I take Aegis until I receive it?

[Jack O'Neill]

Sorry didn't mean to throw you off, this is a little off subject but:

TUDCA is generally very safe, but if you're planning on going out and drinking 4 bottles of wine you shouldn't take TUDCA before doing so. Rather you should take it as you drink the booze, or afterwards.

Ok I understand what you said but I never drink. To be honest I don't drink since more than 8 years... No alcohol, never

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

Ok I understand what you said but I never drink. To be honest I don't drink since more than 8 years... No alcohol, never

I think Markam was under the impression you didn't have Aegis, no need to order more TUDCA if you already have Aegis.

As for drinking I thought you were obligated as a frenchman to consume at least a bottle a day of fine wine. This is no longer true?

[markam]

Ok, now I'm confused,so...

You've been on Aegis all along? Just that you were mentioning that all you needed was Talos?
Anyway, Aegis contains TUDCA and another compound, so you'd be better off using Aegis, than just TUDCA, imo.

[Jack O'Neill]

Ok, now I'm confused,so...

You've been on Aegis all along? Just that you were mentioning that all you needed was Talos?
Anyway, Aegis contains TUDCA and another compound, so you'd be better off using Aegis, than just TUDCA, imo.

No problem markam ;-)

So I continue to take Aegis AND Talos during Tren

[Jack O'Neill]

Good back training yesterday. Good feelings. Don't feel the stop of nano.
Weight is upping...fat too.

I hit my left knee on the end of my barbell yesterday. Very very painful. I'm lucky it was at the end of the training. I feel that my articulations are less solid that before my cycle? Normal? Maybe AH and Tren? It's the same with my elbows. However I take Achilles and glucosamin each day.

This morning karate session. Don't know if I will manage it. My knee is always painful. It's less painful than yesterday afternoon but karate positions are very low and knees are really used.

I will see...