What is out there...

[Devastatingdave]

Consider me schooled, I put out some bad bro-lore. Epi has never been reported as an AI, it's been touted as an "anti-estrogen" more specifically it antagonizes estrogen in breast tissue. From what I gather these assertions are based on studies of the non-methylated parent compound 2α,3α-epithio-5a-androstan-17β-ol. The Japanese studied it in the 70's as an anti-gyno drug and anti-breast cancer drug and said it had utility as both.

Here's one of the originial gyno studies.
2α 3α-Epithio-5α-androstan-17β-ol in Treatment of Gynecomastia

The epi sold as a dietary supplement has the addition of a 17a methyl group.

While we all know that this 17a methyl group addition increases oral bioavailability, we don't know empirically what other effects, if any, it may have. So it would be irresponsible to say it would have the same effects as Epitiostanol, even if this seems very likely.

Ancedotal reports (I.E. bro-lore) state that Epi is affective for some users in reducing Gyno pain and occasionally size.

So once again sorry for the bad info, I'm going to edit the original post so as to avoid propigating garbage info.

For what its worth, non methyl epi is probably also not a very good AI. It also probably works as an antagonist rather than an AI, much in the same way that masteron works to reduce gyno. Mast and epithio are about the same as far as effectiveness in treating gyno, so one could reason that they work through a similar mechanism.

[Devastatingdave]

...that is similar to Epi or perhaps better, but also legal?

Check out IL Triumphalis. It is most likely just as toxic/not toxic as epi (depending on how you view things) and will certainly provide better results mg per mg while still retaining a dry and hard appearance. At least that is my experience with it.

[Avl]

Check out IL Triumphalis. It is most likely just as toxic/not toxic as epi (depending on how you view things) and will certainly provide better results mg per mg while still retaining a dry and hard appearance. At least that is my experience with it.

good mass builder? not like sd good, but how much like mecha?

[Broly]

I can't let Epi get bashed like this with nobody saying anything good about it lol. I loved it! Hard, dry, lean gains... my only complaint was I was very lethargic for the last 2 weeks of a 6 week run.

[nate3993]

I can't let Epi get bashed like this with nobody saying anything good about it lol. I loved it! Hard, dry, lean gains... my only complaint was I was very lethargic for the last 2 weeks of a 6 week run.

epi sounds like hdrol with more sides.

[ezjax]

Celtic Epi is pretty cheap..

[USN HM 350Z]

I love epi... halo is ok too

[JM1000]

Epi for me made 2nd half of the day impossible... Lethargy would hit me like a truck! other than that results are ok!

[DJM]

ANAVAR ftw
its legal if you dont get caught lol

[SoCal-Nutrition]

yeah, you pretty much gotta run it with Stano and/or Dermcrine...otherwise lethargy is a biatch.