Lat pull downs vs pull ups

[USN HM 350Z]

pull ups hands down. Even for me at 230lbs, I start my back routine with 4 sets of pullups, usually 8-10 reps each. No kipping, keeping the body still and squeezing at the top.

[Cdsnuts]

I agree with all of you. But what about the guy that can't do many pull ups but can rack the pull down machine? That's some kind of strength, no? I guess I'm just not sure how they differ seeing they both focus on the same muscle group.

I'm looking to keep redundancy out of my routine, but thought there may be a reason for both.

I'm 210 at the moment and can hit 20 pull ups on my first and second set, so I'm looking to add weight. That's another question entirely....

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pull ups hands down. Even for me at 230lbs, I start my back routine with 4 sets of pullups, usually 8-10 reps each. No kipping, keeping the body still and squeezing at the top.

Do you alternate grip? Wide, neutral, etc?