When is a SERM needed? so many different answers

[harbonah]

I myself would run tamoxifen citrate & clomiphene citrate with any "Tren" based ph supplement I had blood work post tren xtreame solo and was shut down like test level coming back in the 30's.... I know everyone reacts differently but I myself wont risk my balls!

[weakling]

I myself would run tamoxifen citrate & clomiphene citrate with any "Tren" based ph supplement I had blood work post tren xtreame solo and was shut down like test level coming back in the 30's.... I know everyone reacts differently but I myself wont risk my balls!

you would use both tamoxifen and clomiphene? what dose schedule do you use?

What about toremifene? per ID it is equally effective and seems to be more sought after.

[milehighguy]

you would use both tamoxifen and clomiphene? what dose schedule do you use?

What about toremifene? per ID it is equally effective and seems to be more sought after.

weakling, head back over to pp's website and search for 'The Official PCT Thread'. I think it might help give you a little additional background. You can actually still buy SA LV, EndoAmp MAX, and Toco 8 which is the basis of the original PP TRS. Then you can add a SERM to the mix and you should be in good shape. I have not seen many guys use both tamoxifen and clomid but I do believe it would be a good idea if you plan to use something that really shuts you down.