Quote Originally Posted by lt1head View Post
I would start the exem at 12.5mg eod when you start the halo, and then be the last thing you come off of. Run exem two weeks past your serm and stop, no need to taper exem actually, did some more research as the whole exem over adex thing is relatively new to me too Not only is exem less likely to cause rebound, it actually cant cause rebound.

So summary: halo has some (very small) potential to cause gyno, serms have a slightly higher risk, the highest risk time will be the weeks after ceasing serm use, and finally exem has zero rebound effects.

Everyone isn't the same. mostly likely not, but you may need to adjust exem doses based on how you react to the various substances, listen to your body. Look up hi/lo estrogen sides to get an idea if needed

Different topic, do not use a cycle support with saw palmetto or any other dht blockers as it makes epi andro hard less effective, just ask Wes lol. I would be tempted to run the halo the whole 8, and bump the dose to 100+ as sides allow. Halo is pretty tolerable, so is epiandrohard, well to me anyways haha.
Thanks again man, yeah I did some research myself last night 12.5 mg seems like a standard dose, one thing I'm a little confused about is that some people run EOD like you suggested, whereas some people say that the half life for exem is too short and needs to be run every day, but when you run every day there's the risk of suppressing estrogen too much so that's why some people run EOD... this is the problem I always run into when I research this stuff, analysis paralysis and everyone seems to have their own theories that make sense on paper and you don't know which way to turn.

I guess I'd be pretty good to go with exem, but the only other thing that nags in the back of my head is some people say that running an AI on cycle can kill your results? I don't really get why it would. Even if your estrogen dropped too low I can't see any reason why low estrogen sides would ruin a cycle. Now obviously a lot of people do run AI on cycle but they're cycling real gear and stacks of androgens and powerful stuff, so maybe their stacks are just so strong it overpowers the weakening effects of taking an AI? I'm just worried that my over paranoid taking an AI with two non aromatizing compounds would cause me to negate my gains haha.

I think you're right that it might just be a matter of trial and error/listening to the body, you want an instruction manual on these things, but individual biochemistry makes that difficult.

Yes I did read that about saw palmetto, I will have to look into other DHT Blockers as well to see what to avoid because I'm a fan of herbal supps for general health purposes, don't want to take something unknowingly and screw things up. I'll probably just keep it simple with some liver support and my usual stuff like green tea extract.

As for the dosing, you're right, from everything I've read halo is fine at 100 mg/8 weeks and even doable up to 10, just didn't know if that was okay while being stacked with epiandro. Epiandro being non methyl I guess there isn't any real risk; I don't need to be that cautious. I'm definitely looking for some pretty beast results, after all. I'm decently strong and pretty muscular (underneath the fat) without any hormone use, so taking the jump has to be worth it results-wise.