Epic Gainz

[Cdsnuts]

When I get my tax return I'm buying 2 bottles of this to see how much it would enhance someone on cycle. I never paid any of this stuff any mind, I thought it was bs. Plus, myostatin is one of those things I just don't wanna fuck with tbh...but this forum single handily has sold me on it. I was actually I big opponent of it. I thought fucking with myostatin is a big no no no. But if the benefits are that great, maybe the risk to reward is worth it.

Why did you have thoughts against it?

[tallstraw]

Why did you have thoughts against it?

The possible severe tendon issues, the seemingly long term effect of it, while being mostly unknown and under-understood. This thing isn't tested, I mean they haven't even found a suitable pharmaceutical version to test of muscle wasting patients, yet(if I remember right). I'm just not a fan of putting super new compounds in my body that mess with things like that could potentially have direct impacts long term that no one knows.

[Cdsnuts]

The possible severe tendon issues, the seemingly long term effect of it, while being mostly unknown and under-understood. This thing isn't tested, I mean they haven't even found a suitable pharmaceutical version to test of muscle wasting patients, yet(if I remember right). I'm just not a fan of putting super new compounds in my body that mess with things like that could potentially have direct impacts long term that no one knows.

I'd like to find more info on this....I agree with your cautiousness.

[O.N.]

Are there beta tests with legit users on this product?? If SS members are interested, you have my interest as well WickedSuppz.

Would you guys be so kind as to allow one of the SS members to log this?

The first 6 reviews on the product are from my forum, these guys stumbled across the clinical trial that was conducted in January 2014 on the ingredient and wanted to know if it would work. We managed to get a 500g sample in put it into our SEDDS and sold it to the guys at cost price. At this point we had ZERO financial interest in the product working or not working.

If it failed it wouldn't have became a product.
The results and before/after pictures are legitimate you can easily tell this as they are not professional photos which are the easy ones to photoshop. These photos were also posted live on the forum in real time during the trial - at which point like i said we didn't care if it worked or not.

The other reviews from 6 onwards are from customers along with their before/after pictures where possible.

So far we have 2 people that were non responders to the product that we are aware of, 1 was during the trial....however he now claims it is working and the other was some 170lb blogger.

VayneZ is currently logging it on the forum, anyone else can log it too if they like.

The possible severe tendon issues, the seemingly long term effect of it, while being mostly unknown and under-understood. This thing isn't tested, I mean they haven't even found a suitable pharmaceutical version to test of muscle wasting patients, yet(if I remember right). I'm just not a fan of putting super new compounds in my body that mess with things like that could potentially have direct impacts long term that no one knows.

Firstly you need to understand the tendon issues that have been reported in studies are myostatin knockout mice.....these mice have 40-100% more muscle than normal and they have it from having the gene removed and ZERO myostatin in their blood......they are also not training with weights so the tendons are normal lengths (if weight trained during the gain of muscle tissue the tendons would also grow)

We are reducing myostatin.......not removing it.

You first gain 2-3kg (4.4-6.6lbs) over the first few weeks from the myostatin clearing out and the storage of protein and glycogen increasing.....this isn't new muscle tissue at this point it's just storing more nutrients.....just like when you take steroids. After this point this will stretch the muscle tissue along with weight stimulus this will equal more growth and faster repair from nutrient supplies being higher.

You will grow more muscle easier however it is not comparable to say testosterone the muscle in the steroid cycle will also grow at a much faster rate than the tendons yet you dont hear about having tendon issues from doing a cycle.

This is a good long term supplement with fantastic results the growth of the tendons and muscle tissue will be similar.....basically you wont have double the muscle like the mice do as they have knocked out the gene.

Your muscles will grow more whilst you are weight training and the tendons will also grow as you are putting them under the same weight training stress...unlike the mice which were breed to just HAVE more muscle.

For me the best part about the supplement is looking like i am on gear and having more strength.

Tonight i did 36 push ups with a 118kg (260lb) male on my back....i weigh in at 111kg (244lb) at the moment........this was after doing 10 sets of bench.....lol

I have been roid free for about 5 years now or more.

I have never loved my training as much as i have in the past couple of months in a long time....I have struggled training naturally and now I feel like I am on something which is a huge help and motivation to keep it up, the results are there for me and progress is happening each week. I couldn't care less if nobody buys Epic Gainz....i'll end up getting through it all anyway....lol

[Cdsnuts]

Sold.....lol.

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The first 6 reviews on the product are from my forum, these guys stumbled across the clinical trial that was conducted in January 2014 on the ingredient and wanted to know if it would work. We managed to get a 500g sample in put it into our SEDDS and sold it to the guys at cost price. At this point we had ZERO financial interest in the product working or not working.

If it failed it wouldn't have became a product.
The results and before/after pictures are legitimate you can easily tell this as they are not professional photos which are the easy ones to photoshop. These photos were also posted live on the forum in real time during the trial - at which point like i said we didn't care if it worked or not.

The other reviews from 6 onwards are from customers along with their before/after pictures where possible.

So far we have 2 people that were non responders to the product that we are aware of, 1 was during the trial....however he now claims it is working and the other was some 170lb blogger.

VayneZ is currently logging it on the forum, anyone else can log it too if they like.



Firstly you need to understand the tendon issues that have been reported in studies are myostatin knockout mice.....these mice have 40-100% more muscle than normal and they have it from having the gene removed and ZERO myostatin in their blood......they are also not training with weights so the tendons are normal lengths (if weight trained during the gain of muscle tissue the tendons would also grow)

We are reducing myostatin.......not removing it.

You first gain 2-3kg (4.4-6.6lbs) over the first few weeks from the myostatin clearing out and the storage of protein and glycogen increasing.....this isn't new muscle tissue at this point it's just storing more nutrients.....just like when you take steroids. After this point this will stretch the muscle tissue along with weight stimulus this will equal more growth and faster repair from nutrient supplies being higher.

You will grow more muscle easier however it is not comparable to say testosterone the muscle in the steroid cycle will also grow at a much faster rate than the tendons yet you dont hear about having tendon issues from doing a cycle.

This is a good long term supplement with fantastic results the growth of the tendons and muscle tissue will be similar.....basically you wont have double the muscle like the mice do as they have knocked out the gene.

Your muscles will grow more whilst you are weight training and the tendons will also grow as you are putting them under the same weight training stress...unlike the mice which were breed to just HAVE more muscle.

For me the best part about the supplement is looking like i am on gear and having more strength.

Tonight i did 36 push ups with a 118kg (260lb) male on my back....i weigh in at 111kg (244lb) at the moment........this was after doing 10 sets of bench.....lol

I have been roid free for about 5 years now or more.

I have never loved my training as much as i have in the past couple of months in a long time....I have struggled training naturally and now I feel like I am on something which is a huge help and motivation to keep it up, the results are there for me and progress is happening each week. I couldn't care less if nobody buys Epic Gainz....i'll end up getting through it all anyway....lol

Sold.....lol.

So then what happens when you stop? Do you lose ALL of the muscles gained, or do you end up holding on to some of it?

[Cdsnuts]

The first 6 reviews on the product are from my forum, these guys stumbled across the clinical trial that was conducted in January 2014 on the ingredient and wanted to know if it would work. We managed to get a 500g sample in put it into our SEDDS and sold it to the guys at cost price. At this point we had ZERO financial interest in the product working or not working.

If it failed it wouldn't have became a product.
The results and before/after pictures are legitimate you can easily tell this as they are not professional photos which are the easy ones to photoshop. These photos were also posted live on the forum in real time during the trial - at which point like i said we didn't care if it worked or not.

The other reviews from 6 onwards are from customers along with their before/after pictures where possible.

So far we have 2 people that were non responders to the product that we are aware of, 1 was during the trial....however he now claims it is working and the other was some 170lb blogger.

VayneZ is currently logging it on the forum, anyone else can log it too if they like.



Firstly you need to understand the tendon issues that have been reported in studies are myostatin knockout mice.....these mice have 40-100% more muscle than normal and they have it from having the gene removed and ZERO myostatin in their blood......they are also not training with weights so the tendons are normal lengths (if weight trained during the gain of muscle tissue the tendons would also grow)

We are reducing myostatin.......not removing it.

You first gain 2-3kg (4.4-6.6lbs) over the first few weeks from the myostatin clearing out and the storage of protein and glycogen increasing.....this isn't new muscle tissue at this point it's just storing more nutrients.....just like when you take steroids. After this point this will stretch the muscle tissue along with weight stimulus this will equal more growth and faster repair from nutrient supplies being higher.

You will grow more muscle easier however it is not comparable to say testosterone the muscle in the steroid cycle will also grow at a much faster rate than the tendons yet you dont hear about having tendon issues from doing a cycle.

This is a good long term supplement with fantastic results the growth of the tendons and muscle tissue will be similar.....basically you wont have double the muscle like the mice do as they have knocked out the gene.

Your muscles will grow more whilst you are weight training and the tendons will also grow as you are putting them under the same weight training stress...unlike the mice which were breed to just HAVE more muscle.

For me the best part about the supplement is looking like i am on gear and having more strength.

Tonight i did 36 push ups with a 118kg (260lb) male on my back....i weigh in at 111kg (244lb) at the moment........this was after doing 10 sets of bench.....lol

I have been roid free for about 5 years now or more.

I have never loved my training as much as i have in the past couple of months in a long time....I have struggled training naturally and now I feel like I am on something which is a huge help and motivation to keep it up, the results are there for me and progress is happening each week. I couldn't care less if nobody buys Epic Gainz....i'll end up getting through it all anyway....lol

Sold....lol.

So then when you stop, do you lose ALL of the muscle gained, or do you keep some of it?

[O.N.]

Sold....lol.

So then when you stop, do you lose ALL of the muscle gained, or do you keep some of it?

You will lose the additional protein and glycogen retention but whatever muscle you gained during that time will remain with you.
There is also no need to go off Epic Gainz it can be run year round on or off cycle and there is no need to cycle it as it isn't hormonal.....I certainly wont be stopping it.

[Cdsnuts]

You will lose the additional protein and glycogen retention but whatever muscle you gained during that time will remain with you.
There is also no need to go off Epic Gainz it can be run year round on or off cycle and there is no need to cycle it as it isn't hormonal.....I certainly wont be stopping it.

I was going to wait until April to start, but now you're making me do it early. I'm going for it.

[GYMnTONIC.com]

VayneZ is currently logging it on the forum, anyone else can log it too if they like.

Thank you for the response. This is good enough for me.