Originally Posted by
Nathan228
I'm actually curious to see how these two would stack together also. Seems like it would be a good combo tho. I've been using Vedius (beta bottles) for almost two months now, the first month was 50mg a day and the past few weeks I've been doing 100mg a day. I've used it while bulking and cutting and I've had pretty solid results, most noticeably strength wise. I want to add in epicatechin but I'm skeptical about it making me hungry since I'm cutting right now. Has anyone used Epic Gainz while in a caloric deficit??