Need help overcoming hopefully my final stages of PFS

[Atticas]

If you're intent on running the hormones then yes, it would make more sense than running them concurrently.

And your testicles are already somewhat atrophied according to you, so yes, every little bit makes a difference.

Running any kind of hormones isn't going to help add size to your testicles.

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Yea, I mean looking at everything TubZy's posted, I'm definitely gonna run this stuff for at least a month, then I'll come off and cycle the herbs again.

Looking forward to seeing more improvement 😁 Thank you both for all your knowledge and help so far

[rmoore]

I started the herb rotation this week and also take preg (70 mg) with breakfast and thyroid glandular (3) from forefront to boost my low thyroid. Waking temp is 96.9 and pulse is 46. is this OK to take along with cycling the herbs? I also follow a Ray Peat diet.

[Cdsnuts]

I started the herb rotation this week and also take preg (70 mg) with breakfast and thyroid glandular (3) from forefront to boost my low thyroid. Waking temp is 96.9 and pulse is 46. is this OK to take along with cycling the herbs? I also follow a Ray Peat diet.

My opinion is that you either run the herbs, or run exogenous hormones in cycles. Not both simultaneously. If you guys want to use your time and experiment and see what happens, then go for it. I never used preg. to heal. That's not saying it can't help....mind you.

I can only speak for my experiences and the experiences of others that followed a similar path.

[Atticas]

My opinion is that you either run the herbs, or run exogenous hormones in cycles. Not both simultaneously. If you guys want to use your time and experiment and see what happens, then go for it. I never used preg. to heal. That's not saying it can't help....mind you.

I can only speak for my experiences and the experiences of others that followed a similar path.

I honestly think I'm about to do kinna like Maxout777 and just start taking the 5a-DHP in 30mg dosages per day, then stack that with the preg, caffeine, and DHEA.

I haven't really seen any promising results as far as my skin goes yet, but I have noticed some cool size return to my genitals from time to time, my sleep has been awesome, my energy is fine, and I've stopped yawning more and more which was seriously a very annoying problem for me (used to yawn literally what felt like 30-40 times per day).

Libido is still fine... and having a girlfriend, not watching any porn and not masturbating has DEFINITELY been helping make sure that isn't dying out anytime soon.

[Maxout777]

I honestly think I'm about to do kinna like Maxout777 and just start taking the 5a-DHP in 30mg dosages per day, then stack that with the preg, caffeine, and DHEA.

I haven't really seen any promising results as far as my skin goes yet, but I have noticed some cool size return to my genitals from time to time, my sleep has been awesome, my energy is fine, and I've stopped yawning more and more which was seriously a very annoying problem for me (used to yawn literally what felt like 30-40 times per day).

Libido is still fine... and having a girlfriend, not watching any porn and not masturbating has DEFINITELY been helping make sure that isn't dying out anytime soon.

Do you have me mixed up with someone else? I'm not on preg or DHEA and I only take 5mg per day of 5a-DHP. Small doses seem to work best with it......It's definitely a mental boost but I don't consider it necessary. If you have the funds, use it.

[Atticas]

Do you have me mixed up with someone else? I'm not on preg or DHEA and I only take 5mg per day of 5a-DHP. Small doses seem to work best with it......It's definitely a mental boost but I don't consider it necessary. If you have the funds, use it.

I just meant the high does of 5a-DHP part xD My bad..

And yea! I could have sworn you said you were taking like 30mg a day for a while...

Well whatever.. I know I wanna try a higher dosage anyway, cuz although I feel like I might be seeing some smallllll results off of this, I wonder if upping the dosage would make me feel that much better.

Probably gonna order like two more bottles of 5a-DHP and run it heavy for the rest of the month.

[Maxout777]

I just meant the high does of 5a-DHP part xD My bad..

And yea! I could have sworn you said you were taking like 30mg a day for a while...

Well whatever.. I know I wanna try a higher dosage anyway, cuz although I feel like I might be seeing some smallllll results off of this, I wonder if upping the dosage would make me feel that much better.

Probably gonna order like two more bottles of 5a-DHP and run it heavy for the rest of the month.

Ah, yeah I tried it at a high dosage for a few days. Made me too tired and felt like it wasn't doing much else so I dropped it back down. Worth trying to see how you feel. Just be aware if it makes you feel like I did. TOO relaxed haha.

[Atticas]

Ah, yeah I tried it at a high dosage for a few days. Made me too tired and felt like it wasn't doing much else so I dropped it back down. Worth trying to see how you feel. Just be aware if it makes you feel like I did. TOO relaxed haha.

How's your progress been going nowadays?

I tried to message you but it said your inbox was full.

Always cool to see how you're doing since we pretty much started CDN's routine around the same time

[Cdsnuts]

How's your progress been going nowadays?

I tried to message you but it said your inbox was full.

Always cool to see how you're doing since we pretty much started CDN's routine around the same time

Atticus....I wouldn't say that you're fully doing the routine. It's an all or nothing venture....not a piece meal thing and not modified. The results come about by fully immersing yourself in EVERY part of it.

This is a point of contention with myself and other guys that do one or two pieces, don't get the results they want, and then they go around saying that it didn't work. Well....of course it didn't work. You didn't do it. You did what you wanted to out of it....that's not doing the protocol. That's doing pieces of the protocol and it's not the same thing.

Maxout is fully immersed. HE is doing the protocol.

[Maxout777]

How's your progress been going nowadays?

I tried to message you but it said your inbox was full.

Always cool to see how you're doing since we pretty much started CDN's routine around the same time

I'd say I'm hovering around 80-90% with some residual stuff that comes and goes. Very little of my time is spent thinking about it though, so it's more of an afterthought at this point.

That's weird that my inbox is full.....Guess that explains why the torrent of PMs from people has halted lol.