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So....first things first. Have you cleansed? Any kind...water fast, juice feast? Have you attempted to do some house cleaning and start your herb rotation on a clean slate, or did you just do some googling, but some herbs and start taking them?

Aside from all of the other reasons mentioned for doing a cleanse before starting this protocol, one of the most very important reasons are, the way the herbs effect you pre-cleanse are not going to be the way they effect you post cleanse. You maybe be getting hives from what the tongkat is doing to or with other things that are in your system right now. Only one way to find out.....cleanse. You're doing yourself a huge disservice by skipping this part, as dreaded as it may be for you.

If you're "desperate" to get your health back, you need to step back and re-evaluate the way you're approaching this. EVERYTHING in the protocol is there for a specific reason.

Concerning prohormones, when the time comes, just run DHEA 4 without the DHT. That'll get your estro up.

With herb rotation, you could add in phytoestrogenic herbs along with the tongkat to buffer the effects of low estrogen. I'm not too familiar with this because I always had high estro during my PFS struggle.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.


Yes I have done a couple of cleanses over the last 3 years. I have not fasted for longer than a week, however, the last three years I have been gluten free, alcohol free, processed foods free. I try to be organic as possible in terms of meats and veg however it is very costly and I have to budget. Saying that I eat generally 75% organic foods most of the time.

My case is fairly familiar to most finasteride users in that my symptoms really exploded upon becoming very ill with either food poisoning or an insect bite whilst on holiday in Mexico. Its ironic because I went on the holiday as a detox to write myself of all the issues. I was experiencing a bit of ED. Things got 100 times worse once I got ill. I can only explain it as the worst stomach flu in the world.

I have had numerous testing for parasites and Lyme all coming back negative. The NHS system is rather crap! Upon returning from Mexico, I was hospitalised for a week. I woke up with chest pain and numbness in my arms, went to A&E and they confirmed a heart attack. I was 24. Upon testing, they discovered I had inflammation of the heart. Then I developed prostatitis, then gut inflammation. Now recently I have experienced Uveitis which is inflammation of the eyes.

I have been tested for numerous autoimmune issues as they are common in my family. They found slightly raised markers for autoimmune issues with my liver. Seeing a Dr next week about it. May explain my high SHBG?

Anyway, my point being is I have tried so desperately to fix this and I live such a healthy lifestyle other than I do not over do it on the exercise point, not out of laziness, it just makes me crash if I over do it. I basically give my body the best I can. My partner and I own a juice bar so I have 2 or 3 juices a day normally. Sometimes I do intermittent juice fasting as it is meant to be good for you. I also bought a home infared sauna which I use 2 times a week.

I think a lot of my issues come down to my body fighting something which is halting my recovery! My hips click and crack, my sleep is usually not great, libido is down. The reason I think I have the opposite issues to most propecia users is that high estrogen does not seem to be a problem for me, it's in fact low estrogen that is. HCG whilst on it got rid of the hip issues once it was raised. It also returned my flaccid hang to a much normal state. I cannot seem to find much on the internet regarding high SHBG and low e2. Most supps that lower SHBG is by inhibiting aromatse which I do not want to do!

Another point to add, I had raised prolactin when first getting ill, they thought I had a pituitary tumor. Prolactin was not that high but MRI confirmed no tumor was found. I took cabergoline and it restored my spontaneous erections. Not even TRT did this, although TRT did seem to help erection strength.

Summarising



It took me about a year to realise the medical world could not do anything for me, hence why I have been living so clean for so long.

My issues seem to be with low e2 and low dopamine. I have read studies on Tribulus and the androgen receptor sensitivity in the brain, maybe this could improve the dopamine issues?

I am going to plan to do a longer fast however with my body in the fragile state its in I wonder if a juice feast would be a better idea?

Sorry for such an in depth story. Trying to paint a clear picture for you!

Thanks again

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Thanks for taking the time to reply.


Yes I have done a couple of cleanses over the last 3 years. I have not fasted for longer than a week, however, the last three years I have been gluten free, alcohol free, processed foods free. I try to be organic as possible in terms of meats and veg however it is very costly and I have to budget. Saying that I eat generally 75% organic foods most of the time.

My case is fairly familiar to most finasteride users in that my symptoms really exploded upon becoming very ill with either food poisoning or an insect bite whilst on holiday in Mexico. Its ironic because I went on the holiday as a detox to write myself of all the issues. I was experiencing a bit of ED. Things got 100 times worse once I got ill. I can only explain it as the worst stomach flu in the world.

I have had numerous testing for parasites and Lyme all coming back negative. The NHS system is rather crap! Upon returning from Mexico, I was hospitalised for a week. I woke up with chest pain and numbness in my arms, went to A&E and they confirmed a heart attack. I was 24. Upon testing, they discovered I had inflammation of the heart. Then I developed prostatitis, then gut inflammation. Now recently I have experienced Uveitis which is inflammation of the eyes.

I have been tested for numerous autoimmune issues as they are common in my family. They found slightly raised markers for autoimmune issues with my liver. Seeing a Dr next week about it. May explain my high SHBG?

Anyway, my point being is I have tried so desperately to fix this and I live such a healthy lifestyle other than I do not over do it on the exercise point, not out of laziness, it just makes me crash if I over do it. I basically give my body the best I can. My partner and I own a juice bar so I have 2 or 3 juices a day normally. Sometimes I do intermittent juice fasting as it is meant to be good for you. I also bought a home infared sauna which I use 2 times a week.

I think a lot of my issues come down to my body fighting something which is halting my recovery! My hips click and crack, my sleep is usually not great, libido is down. The reason I think I have the opposite issues to most propecia users is that high estrogen does not seem to be a problem for me, it's in fact low estrogen that is. HCG whilst on it got rid of the hip issues once it was raised. It also returned my flaccid hang to a much normal state. I cannot seem to find much on the internet regarding high SHBG and low e2. Most supps that lower SHBG is by inhibiting aromatse which I do not want to do!

Another point to add, I had raised prolactin when first getting ill, they thought I had a pituitary tumor. Prolactin was not that high but MRI confirmed no tumor was found. I took cabergoline and it restored my spontaneous erections. Not even TRT did this, although TRT did seem to help erection strength.

Summarising



It took me about a year to realise the medical world could not do anything for me, hence why I have been living so clean for so long.

My issues seem to be with low e2 and low dopamine. I have read studies on Tribulus and the androgen receptor sensitivity in the brain, maybe this could improve the dopamine issues?

I am going to plan to do a longer fast however with my body in the fragile state its in I wonder if a juice feast would be a better idea?

Sorry for such an in depth story. Trying to paint a clear picture for you!

Thanks again

Not a problem. The more info, the better.

Seeing as you're having autoimmune type issues, inflammation is your enemy. You would benefit from an extended juice feast or water fast. If it were me, i would do a month long juice feast. Making sure you're getting at least 2,000 calories/day from just pure juice along with a half gallon of water per day as well. This will quench any inflammation you are having along with getting a nice, deep cleanse in.

In regards to your dopamine, I would heavily supplement with Mucuna Organic Extract - L-DOPA - Lost Empire Herbs (Mucuna Puriens) along with any of the adaptogens I had mentioned earlier, especially Rhodiola, again you can get these both from Lost Empire.

You're in a great position as you own your own juice bar!!

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Thanks for taking the time to reply.


Yes I have done a couple of cleanses over the last 3 years. I have not fasted for longer than a week, however, the last three years I have been gluten free, alcohol free, processed foods free. I try to be organic as possible in terms of meats and veg however it is very costly and I have to budget. Saying that I eat generally 75% organic foods most of the time.

My case is fairly familiar to most finasteride users in that my symptoms really exploded upon becoming very ill with either food poisoning or an insect bite whilst on holiday in Mexico. Its ironic because I went on the holiday as a detox to write myself of all the issues. I was experiencing a bit of ED. Things got 100 times worse once I got ill. I can only explain it as the worst stomach flu in the world.

I have had numerous testing for parasites and Lyme all coming back negative. The NHS system is rather crap! Upon returning from Mexico, I was hospitalised for a week. I woke up with chest pain and numbness in my arms, went to A&E and they confirmed a heart attack. I was 24. Upon testing, they discovered I had inflammation of the heart. Then I developed prostatitis, then gut inflammation. Now recently I have experienced Uveitis which is inflammation of the eyes.

I have been tested for numerous autoimmune issues as they are common in my family. They found slightly raised markers for autoimmune issues with my liver. Seeing a Dr next week about it. May explain my high SHBG?

Anyway, my point being is I have tried so desperately to fix this and I live such a healthy lifestyle other than I do not over do it on the exercise point, not out of laziness, it just makes me crash if I over do it. I basically give my body the best I can. My partner and I own a juice bar so I have 2 or 3 juices a day normally. Sometimes I do intermittent juice fasting as it is meant to be good for you. I also bought a home infared sauna which I use 2 times a week.

I think a lot of my issues come down to my body fighting something which is halting my recovery! My hips click and crack, my sleep is usually not great, libido is down. The reason I think I have the opposite issues to most propecia users is that high estrogen does not seem to be a problem for me, it's in fact low estrogen that is. HCG whilst on it got rid of the hip issues once it was raised. It also returned my flaccid hang to a much normal state. I cannot seem to find much on the internet regarding high SHBG and low e2. Most supps that lower SHBG is by inhibiting aromatse which I do not want to do!

Another point to add, I had raised prolactin when first getting ill, they thought I had a pituitary tumor. Prolactin was not that high but MRI confirmed no tumor was found. I took cabergoline and it restored my spontaneous erections. Not even TRT did this, although TRT did seem to help erection strength.

Summarising



It took me about a year to realise the medical world could not do anything for me, hence why I have been living so clean for so long.

My issues seem to be with low e2 and low dopamine. I have read studies on Tribulus and the androgen receptor sensitivity in the brain, maybe this could improve the dopamine issues?

I am going to plan to do a longer fast however with my body in the fragile state its in I wonder if a juice feast would be a better idea?

Sorry for such an in depth story. Trying to paint a clear picture for you!

Thanks again

Just wanted to share my experience with broth fasting. When I had been unbelievably ill for 5 years (spent 5 years in bed pretty much and did yoga but that is all I did) I decided to do a broth fast. It was the best thing I have ever done. It was the turn around for me. I had tried everything up to that point but had not improved really. Anyway, did a two week broth fast and also drank ginger tea. After that fast it was as if my body started to recover. I am still not fully recovered but it would not surprise me if I would have died at some point if I had not done that broth fast.

So since you live in the UK (I lived in London for 12 years back then) you have access to butchers and pigs feet. I made my broths EXTREMELY gelatinous. I put 5 pigs feet in a medium sized slow cooker and let them simmer on low for 48 hours. After that I strain through a cheese clot. Put the stuff in the fridge so the fat accumulates on top if you want to remove it. I drank about 1/2 liter per day but extremely thick and gelatinous. Ginger tea must be made with real ginger root.

I have since made broth regularly. I never get it tasty but I drink it anyway. Chicken feet taste better but you will get the most gelatin from cows or pigs feet.

Downside: time consuming.

Writing this makes me want to do another broth fast. Or broth and green juice liquid diet.

PS. Supplementing gelatin does not have this effect at all.