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    yeah nasty down swing. I felt nearly recovered on my last cycle so excited for the next. the l-theanine still works like a charm for me just when i hit a down swing I wake up after 5 hours and can't get those last stages of rem sleep without l-theanine. In february tho I only had that happen twice. I would wake up but I was able to go to sleep after a piss.

    breathing helps me with anxiety/panic attacks (which is gone now) but I haven't found it particular for sleep. I'll try again tonight for sure.

    did u speak with rob? he said the site was gunna go down again on sunday until they find a new web master not sure if you're involved in this?

    did u use melatonin at all? better to stay away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    yeah nasty down swing. I felt nearly recovered on my last cycle so excited for the next. the l-theanine still works like a charm for me just when i hit a down swing I wake up after 5 hours and can't get those last stages of rem sleep without l-theanine. In february tho I only had that happen twice. I would wake up but I was able to go to sleep after a piss.

    breathing helps me with anxiety/panic attacks (which is gone now) but I haven't found it particular for sleep. I'll try again tonight for sure.

    did u speak with rob? he said the site was gunna go down again on sunday until they find a new web master not sure if you're involved in this?

    did u use melatonin at all? better to stay away?
    I didn't speak to him. Was too busy all day. We texted briefly between my appointments. And no, I'm not involved at all.

    Oh yeah, I used the hell out of melatonin when I was bad. I'll still use it after a day of drinking...lol. It's safe to use responsibly. You're good there.

    With the breathing, if you do like five to six rounds and then lay down right afterwords, you should be able to slip into a nice sleep. Have you tried it like that before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I didn't speak to him. Was too busy all day. We texted briefly between my appointments. And no, I'm not involved at all.

    Oh yeah, I used the hell out of melatonin when I was bad. I'll still use it after a day of drinking...lol. It's safe to use responsibly. You're good there.

    With the breathing, if you do like five to six rounds and then lay down right afterwords, you should be able to slip into a nice sleep. Have you tried it like that before?
    I did 2 rounds last night. can't say it helped slip into sleep better but the downswing is improving now. Woke up with some good libido.

    yes when I do use it I use 3mg. I like using it if my sleep rhythm gets too late. I'm able to lower it by 1 hour by dosing melatonin and get an early start to my next day.

    cd i know you said u were busy but if u hit Rob up by email before sunday (cuz he said it's gunna go down again) we might have a better shot of salvaging the site. I'm sure it won't take more than 30 minutes to ensure it gets locked down for another year or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    I did 2 rounds last night. can't say it helped slip into sleep better but the downswing is improving now. Woke up with some good libido.

    yes when I do use it I use 3mg. I like using it if my sleep rhythm gets too late. I'm able to lower it by 1 hour by dosing melatonin and get an early start to my next day.

    cd i know you said u were busy but if u hit Rob up by email before sunday (cuz he said it's gunna go down again) we might have a better shot of salvaging the site. I'm sure it won't take more than 30 minutes to ensure it gets locked down for another year or so
    When doing the breathing exercises to help induce sleep, you need to do more, as I had mentioned. 5-6 rounds preferably, not only two.

    And not sure what you mean about locking it down for another year? I can tell you that if there is going to be money involved, it's not going to happen on my end. Not sure why, but I think people have been purchasing herbs through other places other then my website, so there has been barely anything coming in dollar wise. If everyone would have been purchasing the products through my site, then I would consider using that money to prop up this site. That's not the case though and I'm not going to spend my own money on doing so.

    It's unfortunate for sure, but these things cost money that just isnt' there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    When doing the breathing exercises to help induce sleep, you need to do more, as I had mentioned. 5-6 rounds preferably, not only two.

    And not sure what you mean about locking it down for another year? I can tell you that if there is going to be money involved, it's not going to happen on my end. Not sure why, but I think people have been purchasing herbs through other places other then my website, so there has been barely anything coming in dollar wise. If everyone would have been purchasing the products through my site, then I would consider using that money to prop up this site. That's not the case though and I'm not going to spend my own money on doing so.

    It's unfortunate for sure, but these things cost money that just isnt' there.
    I use your affiliate links. I'll ask how much it would cost to keep it up and i'll try to do it even though I'm broke as a joke. The continuity of this forum is important to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    When doing the breathing exercises to help induce sleep, you need to do more, as I had mentioned. 5-6 rounds preferably, not only two.

    And not sure what you mean about locking it down for another year? I can tell you that if there is going to be money involved, it's not going to happen on my end. Not sure why, but I think people have been purchasing herbs through other places other then my website, so there has been barely anything coming in dollar wise. If everyone would have been purchasing the products through my site, then I would consider using that money to prop up this site. That's not the case though and I'm not going to spend my own money on doing so.

    It's unfortunate for sure, but these things cost money that just isnt' there.

    Guys, If that is really the case that some of you aren't buying your herbs through the TMO site, that is pretty douchey. For everything that CD has done for this community, why the hell would you not?

    CD, I'm not sure if your new site will contain some sort of forum or messaging board, but if not, I think the continuation of this site is very important to many of us. I find the exchange of information, positive support and sense of community to be extremely critical to recovery. This can be a very isolating disease given the fact that non-sufferers can't or don't want to understand it. If you have a sense of how much it costs to host this for another year, perhaps those of us who find value in it can contribute to the cause via PayPal or something. I would definitely be in. Let me know your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn View Post
    Guys, If that is really the case that some of you aren't buying your herbs through the TMO site, that is pretty douchey. For everything that CD has done for this community, why the hell would you not?

    CD, I'm not sure if your new site will contain some sort of forum or messaging board, but if not, I think the continuation of this site is very important to many of us. I find the exchange of information, positive support and sense of community to be extremely critical to recovery. This can be a very isolating disease given the fact that non-sufferers can't or don't want to understand it. If you have a sense of how much it costs to host this for another year, perhaps those of us who find value in it can contribute to the cause via PayPal or something. I would definitely be in. Let me know your thoughts.
    I'll make a donation to keep this site up for sure. There's always facebook too
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