Man, thanks a ton for responding. I think I'll give the topical a try and see how it goes. Like I said, it would just be really great to get rid of this pain.
I can see it being antiandrogenic as well. I gave kratom a try a while back, and it worked great for pain, but just like opiates it can also drop T levels...I'd rather deal with pain than crash again. Anyway, I digress...
Thanks, again.