I am a hackstasis member, but i never post. I should not have said there is no other option, maybe there is, for others. So i am sorry i said that. Just for me, and what i am doing, this works. I used this poison for nine years and was already copper toxic to begin with, probably from birth. I always had this wierd aversion at eating red meat, and after and during my finasteride use this only got worse. Eating a hamburger would make me sick. I know that three years is a long time but the copper is still coming out. Few weeks ago i went to the dokter with a stool-sample for analysis, and still full of copper. Even the dokter cant believe this, and wont support the methods i use cause of his medical ethics, but also acknowledge that this is not supposed to be in my body, and i should continue until its gone. When i first had these copper dumps i could have never imagined this would take more than 3 years, as they were very intense, but they still do. It is unbelievable how much toxins a body can store. I am much and much better now, and i believe almost there. Look also into copper personalities. It really excists. Google it. Many people on PFS-forums are creative, artistic people. Busy with music, designing, comedy, performing, writing etc. These are all high copper personality treats. But when it gets too high it means trouble, and that is what finasteride has done to me, along with genetics and lifestyle (hard partying...). But again, you were right, i can only speak for myself. But if anyone recognises anything in my story they have a clou where to look. I will stop posting now and wish all of you good luck with your protocol, all the best! Sorry for my english, i am from The Netherlands