Ratchet’s Story & Recovery

[Ratchet]

Guys,

This question has undoubtedly been answered, and I’ve looked for the answer for the past 30 mins, truly.

I just pulled trigger on herbs and am awaiting delivery.

My question: has anyone discontinued herbs for a prolonged period of time w/o any detriment? I don’t doubt the “once you understand the benefits, you’ll never go back” logic. I follow this principle in exercise, diet, etc. and will in certain disciplines until the day I die. BUT, I don’t want to live a life propped up by pine trees and fulvic acid. I made that fucking mistake already when I fucktardedly concluded, “fin for life isn’t such a bad trade-off for my hair”. Point being, I’m seeking a full recovery, to which I will continue to optimize regardless afterwords. But by my definition, optimization/recovery means no regression after dropping supps though. I read all the stickies, so please don’t refer me to the definition of recovery. Just looking for some anecdotes here. Regardless, starting herb cycle here soon, just another kid looking for some reassurance and coddling.

Also, took .625mg Royal Jelly for two days in a row. Experienced overwhelming anxiety/emotional breakdowns after 2nd day. Felt similar to attacks during onset of fin sides.

Before some of you here who are taking Royal Jelly become concerned, know that I have been extremely stressed from my recent breakup. This is 95% the contributing factor to what has been going on and is definitely exacerbating my downswing. I’m doing my best to manage it, but breakups are mindfucks.

Either way, I researched Royal Jelly & and how it influences androgens. All I quickly gathered was that it’s mentioned in congruence with DHEA and estrogen metabolism/chelation in the liver. Considering the high aromatization activity of PFS guys, the DHEA to E1 pathway, and the fact that my liver seems to have shit the bed lately, just curious if you guys would give any credence to the fact that my panic attack/breakdown could have been greatly influenced by royal jelly (physiologically) by jacking up my E some how. Probably not.

I’ve back burner’d it since and will try incorporating it back once I feel like I’ll be able to differentiate its effects from everything else going on.

Feeling positive, all the best.

[Turnover25]

Guys,

This question has undoubtedly been answered, and I’ve looked for the answer for the past 30 mins, truly.

I just pulled trigger on herbs and am awaiting delivery.

My question: has anyone discontinued herbs for a prolonged period of time w/o any detriment? I don’t doubt the “once you understand the benefits, you’ll never go back” logic. I follow this principle in exercise, diet, etc. and will in certain disciplines until the day I die. BUT, I don’t want to live a life propped up by pine trees and fulvic acid. I made that fucking mistake already when I fucktardedly concluded, “fin for life isn’t such a bad trade-off for my hair”. Point being, I’m seeking a full recovery, to which I will continue to optimize regardless afterwords. But by my definition, optimization/recovery means no regression after dropping supps though. I read all the stickies, so please don’t refer me to the definition of recovery. Just looking for some anecdotes here. Regardless, starting herb cycle here soon, just another kid looking for some reassurance and coddling.

Also, took .625mg Royal Jelly for two days in a row. Experienced overwhelming anxiety/emotional breakdowns after 2nd day. Felt similar to attacks during onset of fin sides.

Before some of you here who are taking Royal Jelly become concerned, know that I have been extremely stressed from my recent breakup. This is 95% the contributing factor to what has been going on and is definitely exacerbating my downswing. I’m doing my best to manage it, but breakups are mindfucks.

Either way, I researched Royal Jelly & and how it influences androgens. All I quickly gathered was that it’s mentioned in congruence with DHEA and estrogen metabolism/chelation in the liver. Considering the high aromatization activity of PFS guys, the DHEA to E1 pathway, and the fact that my liver seems to have shit the bed lately, just curious if you guys would give any credence to the fact that my panic attack/breakdown could have been greatly influenced by royal jelly (physiologically) by jacking up my E some how. Probably not.

I’ve back burner’d it since and will try incorporating it back once I feel like I’ll be able to differentiate its effects from everything else going on.

Feeling positive, all the best.

I ordered about 21 different herbs, I cycle 17 I think. Royal Jelly was one of the 3 or 4 that I have binned currently. They aren't all going to agree with you. Basically, for now I have it binned until later on I may decide to give it another go when my body can tolerate it better.