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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjw1999 View Post
    As i read through the recoveries thread on this forum, one consistent theme that stood out for me was those who recovered just made the protocol a way of life and tried to mentally forget they were on any protocol and forget they had PFS. They got it out of their head! They got on with life! Yes once you have given your body the tools, ie the protocol, the rest after time is just psychological! A negative mindset will seriously damage you and your health, prevent you from recovering, you loose sleep etc. The positive one can heal and fix the pathways in your brain that are broken.
    I sense you’re a little stuck in the sympathetic nervous system right now! Hey we all are until recovery happens! That’s why calming the mind is so important.
    You’ve got this! Just tweak your way of life a little. You know where you need to improve, just give yourself that kick up the arse and get moving with it! Looking forward to hearing your positive news soon
    I agree that the best thing is to “set it and forget it.” If I’m eating things every day that disrupt my gut and that reduces my androgen sensitivity, that needs to be addressed ASAP which I believe I’m doing. It would make SO much sense if that was the case.

    I thought that quinoa was okay since it’s not a grain (it’s technically a seed,) and seeds are specifically allowed on the protocol. However, quinoa is a pseudo-grain, and it’s high in lectins. As I did research on “leaky gut” syndrome, I’ve found out that quinoa, lentils, and brown rice all contribute to it, along with beans. While I did start eating meat and eggs, I also continued eating those other three foods on a daily basis, assuming that they were also okay. They’re not (at least for me.) I may have been giving myself the equivalent of gluten on a daily basis!

    Yesterday I started doing what I think is a better version of the protocol diet, eliminating the beans, lentils, chickpeas, and the brown rice or quinoa for carb backloading. Until I’m fully healed, I'll only be using white rice for my carb backloading. In the process of making brown rice into white rice, the lectin is removed so that should be okay (even though CD says that brown rice is okay on his TMO website, I think white rice is safer for me.)

    From what I’ve read, it usually takes 2 to 4 weeks to repair the leaky gut by making diet changes, since that’s how long it takes the gut’s inner lining to fully replace itself. I’m continuing with the protocol and focusing on other aspects of my life than PFS, but I really do need to keep spending some effort towards making sure that I have my new meals sorted out. Once all of that becomes routine, I can “set it and forget it.” In probably a couple of weeks, I might feel significantly better and I’ll definitely update my thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGo View Post
    I agree that the best thing is to “set it and forget it.” If I’m eating things every day that disrupt my gut and that reduces my androgen sensitivity, that needs to be addressed ASAP which I believe I’m doing. It would make SO much sense if that was the case.

    I thought that quinoa was okay since it’s not a grain (it’s technically a seed,) and seeds are specifically allowed on the protocol. However, quinoa is a pseudo-grain, and it’s high in lectins. As I did research on “leaky gut” syndrome, I’ve found out that quinoa, lentils, and brown rice all contribute to it, along with beans. While I did start eating meat and eggs, I also continued eating those other three foods on a daily basis, assuming that they were also okay. They’re not (at least for me.) I may have been giving myself the equivalent of gluten on a daily basis!

    Yesterday I started doing what I think is a better version of the protocol diet, eliminating the beans, lentils, chickpeas, and the brown rice or quinoa for carb backloading. Until I’m fully healed, I'll only be using white rice for my carb backloading. In the process of making brown rice into white rice, the lectin is removed so that should be okay (even though CD says that brown rice is okay on his TMO website, I think white rice is safer for me.)

    From what I’ve read, it usually takes 2 to 4 weeks to repair the leaky gut by making diet changes, since that’s how long it takes the gut’s inner lining to fully replace itself. I’m continuing with the protocol and focusing on other aspects of my life than PFS, but I really do need to keep spending some effort towards making sure that I have my new meals sorted out. Once all of that becomes routine, I can “set it and forget it.” In probably a couple of weeks, I might feel significantly better and I’ll definitely update my thread.
    The protocol is a solid "skeleton" Are some little things going to be tweaked per individual here and there, yes. It's alot as it is, so to even get into telling people they may need to watch the foods you mentioned, along with nightshades, etc, it would be overload.......it's overload for most dudes already.

    Beans can be a hassle, for sure. But not for everyone. They aren't Paleo anyway.

    Just strip the diet down to the bare essentials and then slowly start adding things back in. You'll come around in a few weeks, if not sooner should you route out the culprit
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    The protocol is a solid "skeleton" Are some little things going to be tweaked per individual here and there, yes. It's alot as it is, so to even get into telling people they may need to watch the foods you mentioned, along with nightshades, etc, it would be overload.......it's overload for most dudes already.

    Beans can be a hassle, for sure. But not for everyone. They aren't Paleo anyway.

    Just strip the diet down to the bare essentials and then slowly start adding things back in. You'll come around in a few weeks, if not sooner should you route out the culprit
    Thanks, I do think that for most guys it’d feel like overload; but PFS is the worse overload.

    I’m hopeful that white rice won’t cause any problems, and I’m really interested to see how I feel in another week or three. They say it takes 2 - 4 weeks for the gut lining to replace itself, and it’s already been close to 1 week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGo View Post
    Thanks, I do think that for most guys it’d feel like overload; but PFS is the worse overload.

    I’m hopeful that white rice won’t cause any problems, and I’m really interested to see how I feel in another week or three. They say it takes 2 - 4 weeks for the gut lining to replace itself, and it’s already been close to 1 week.
    I've always preferred white rice to brown. You won't have any problems with it.
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