Quote Originally Posted by pman42 View Post
arrgh, ok, any other things i could look into for a recomp effect? I want something stronger than OTC supplements but don't want to go hormonal at this point.

ECA is always an option, and dirt cheap. DJM, do you find it is possible to use ECA on a recomp, losing fat while still building a bit of muscle?
if you keep your cals at maintenance to preserve size, but up fat and lower carbs, then yes you could burn fat, adding muscle requires increase in cals, you cant have your cake and eat it too......however dropping bodyfat will give the appearance of more muscle as you shift your body composition.......a cut up guy at 200 looks bigger than a soft 220