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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    So someone took a hostage, most likely with a gun, and this shows that guns stop crime?
    fk another day of this
    the US is the most violent nation among all major industrialized countries......the reputation precedes itself
    something is going on that is not in other places.....removing guns is not the 100% solution, but its a step in the right direction

    arent officers in prisons gun-less for the same reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt View Post
    I agree with FPR on this. You get rid of guns, crime goes up.
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    not all crimes are perpetrated with the use of a firearm.......crimes could become less violent and/or fatal without guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    So someone took a hostage, most likely with a gun, and this shows that guns stop crime?
    I was actually showing that the situation happened a few hundred yards from my house and I knew nothing of it until the next day, even though I drove right past it on the way to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    not all crimes are perpetrated with the use of a firearm.......crimes could become less violent and/or fatal without guns
    Violent crimes may go down, but crime as a whole goes up.
    A burglar with a gun breaks into a house, pulls a gun and doesn't have to worry about firing it. It is just used as intimidation. If guns are banned, the burglar knows this and doesn't have to worry about being shot at when breaking in. The crime was just committed, but no one got hurt.
    I agree that less fatal crime is better, but once it starts to rise, things get ugly.
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    ^^^then the govt must adapt and increase penalties for said crimes, there is way too much leniency for certain stuff

    and for the prison over crowding bs, put the burglars in (who had the notion they could invade someones home which imo is bad regardless of non violence) and stop filling cells with misdemeanor marijuana busts and the like

    your burglar who is gunless, and if caught is looking at a more severe sentence, will think twice, of course not all, you cant fix stupid, but a decline is the goal here, sadly eradication is a pipe dream in the world we live

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    The video just shows that the media have done their job of making most Americans feel good and comfortable while their personal freedoms are taken away one bit at a time. It also shows that the CFR has done a good job of placing their people in important positions in the media and government so that their plan for one world government continues on.

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    I just had an interesting thought. When people are killed by guns, aren't their rights being stolen (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness)? Why should the rights of gun owners be more important than others right to life? Which right is more vital to the U.S. (hell the world)? I see too many GOP congressmen talking about Obama "stealing their rights and freedoms", but none talking about the victim's rights.

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    ^^^^the bikeswimlive independent party for 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    ^^^^the bikeswimlive independent party for 2016
    Beyond the fact that running on a platform of common sense/middle ground rhetoric would never even come close to touching a ballot because of the partisan lunacy, I don't have the millions in SuperPAC and Lobby Group support. America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I don't have the millions in SuperPAC and Lobby Group support.
    support, payment for favors, same thing

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