Burly's TRT journey

[burlyman30]

except he got 15x 21 g for drawing and 15x 25 g all for $4.50

I would've been fine paying that. I can't believe how hard I got hosed. <shaking head>

Has your dad been re-tested on his test levels since he went to 200/wk?

[BBG]

So funny how impossibly cheap they are online, but absurdly expensive through the pharmacy.

It's no wonder pharm grade meds like cialis cost insane amounts, but buying them on RC sites is so inexpensive.

[weekend]

He manipulated his way to 200 a week by getting tested during the trough instead of midway between shots. Doc is an idiot and originally told him to do 300 mg cyp every 3 weeks.

He never did, always 100 a week then got tested like 6 days after an injection and came back at 380 (originally 260).

Then he got prescribed 600 mg every 3 weeks (LOL).

But he is doing 100 every Monday and Thursday now. He got tested after a while but instead of getting tested during the midway point he skipped an injection and got it tested the day after that (a Friday). But he had been on 200 a week consistently for 2 months already. Level came back at 590. So I figure his trough is 650ish and peak is prob 1000ish. One things for sure... He's definitely looking healthier and happier since switching to 200. He used to be 450 lb at 5'8. He got down to 210 before TRT, and now he's down to 185.

[longBallLima]

I found them in pharmacies for about the same price as online. just not as much variety. got a few 25g and felt that was a waste of time, so i have a box of 25 needles just laying around. 23 is the way to go for me it seems.

He manipulated his way to 200 a week by getting tested during the trough instead of midway between shots. Doc is an idiot and originally told him to do 300 mg cyp every 3 weeks.

He never did, always 100 a week then got tested like 6 days after an injection and came back at 380 (originally 260).

Then he got prescribed 600 mg every 3 weeks (LOL).

But he is doing 100 every Monday and Thursday now. He got tested after a while but instead of getting tested during the midway point he skipped an injection and got it tested the day after that (a Friday). But he had been on 200 a week consistently for 2 months already. Level came back at 590. So I figure his trough is 650ish and peak is prob 1000ish. One things for sure... He's definitely looking healthier and happier since switching to 200. He used to be 450 lb at 5'8. He got down to 210 before TRT, and now he's down to 185.

HOLY SHIT!!

[burlyman30]

I found them in pharmacies for about the same price as online. just not as much variety. got a few 25g and felt that was a waste of time, so i have a box of 25 needles just laying around. 23 is the way to go for me it seems.

I'd personally only use a 25 with either a water-base or an extremely thin oil. I'm in agreement with you on the time factor. I'll shoot it in 3-5 seconds. I really don't want it to take any longer. lol. 20 years ago, I started out with 21s. I really don't mind them and they empty immediately, but the 23s are noticeably smaller. Others here use another approach and use much much smaller pins... 27s, even 29s. I personally can't imagine spending minutes on an injection, but to each his own.

[burlyman30]

He manipulated his way to 200 a week by getting tested during the trough instead of midway between shots. Doc is an idiot and originally told him to do 300 mg cyp every 3 weeks.

He never did, always 100 a week then got tested like 6 days after an injection and came back at 380 (originally 260).

Then he got prescribed 600 mg every 3 weeks (LOL).

But he is doing 100 every Monday and Thursday now. He got tested after a while but instead of getting tested during the midway point he skipped an injection and got it tested the day after that (a Friday). But he had been on 200 a week consistently for 2 months already. Level came back at 590. So I figure his trough is 650ish and peak is prob 1000ish. One things for sure... He's definitely looking healthier and happier since switching to 200. He used to be 450 lb at 5'8. He got down to 210 before TRT, and now he's down to 185.

Great information for me, weekend. Thanks.

Repped.

[Cobalt]

Christ burly, $12 for TWO pins?
I thought the laws around here were bad, but holy shit.

I did immuno-therapy a couple years back (for allergies) and I gave myself shots at home. 29ga slin pins. I had a script for .5 inch 28ga, but the pharmacist was very flexible on what I ended up getting. I still needed the script, but I didn't have to get -exactly- what it said.

Oh, and I don't go to the Target pharmacy here anymore. They are a bunch of twats.

[h2s]

I would laugh at the price, but I am sure there are a bunch of people paying that and knowing no better. I get boxes for what you would spend for 6-8.

[burlyman30]

Pinned again today. 100mg. I have been jonesing for the shot since Sunday, to be honest. At this point, I cannot tell you if that was brought on by psychological or physiological reasons, or a combination of the two.

In two weeks I have a blood draw to test for polycythemia (RBCs too high). Those who have followed from the beginning of this thread know that my levels were just slightly beyond the high side of the range and there was some initial concern about that. If this current dosage shows signs of increasing this, then it is likely that I will begin donating blood in order to decrease this. The other alternative is to stop TRT and, well, if I didn't need it in the first place I wouldn't be here.

Started my workouts at the end of last week. I thought I started easy/light, but apparently my body didn't agree. I'm still too sore to continue working out at this point so far in the week. I may need a couple more days rest. I've been in a lot of pain, actually. Beyond the norm. So I'll go even easier next time. For the last few days I've kept thinking "I need some tren to heal up!" Nothing works better, in my experience.

I started a thread here on SS about intramuscular vs subcutaneous injection. The initial spark in interest was from a show on superhuman radio. The other reason, I had failed to mention on this log. When I went in for "injection training", the med assistant said this would be an intramuscular shot, which I had expected. However, the instruction he gave me for giving the shot was not consistent with intramuscular injection, but rather subcutaneous.

Let me explain. He told me to grab the skin on the top of my leg (while sitting) and squeeze it together. Doing so, creates a "lump" of flesh/fat about 1.5" high. Then he had me inject the 1" needle. I don't think his math is so good, as it is physically impossible to reach the muscle by injecting in this fashion.

However, I didn't argue. I just went along. After all, I had already embarrassed him when he drew the incorrect amount into the syringe and I had to point that out. I didn't want to have a field day with his confidence levels. I figured (remembering some of the show on SHR) I would just see how things went.

As reported here, all went well with that initial injection and so last week I decided to mimic that injection technique. Again, all went well, so I repeated again this morning.

I have 1.5" pins at my house currently that a buddy of mine sold me (box of 1" on order), so I simply put the pin 2/3 of the way in prior to depressing the plunger.

From the "early years" of injecting, I had a lot of hard nodules and scar tissue that formed in my glutes. The scar tissue is probably still there, but the nodules finally went away completely after about 10 years. Injecting into the fat appears to avoid/alleviate this problem, so I will likely continue this protocol unless an issue arises. One advantage to SubQ injections--no muscle soreness post injection. No PIP at all.

[burlyman30]

Oh, and I don't go to the Target pharmacy here anymore. They are a bunch of twats.

It was chosen for 1) convenience, as it is nearby me and right off the freeway and 2) the one I go to is less busy than others and the lines are almost always short. This is the first problem I have had with them. It may not be the last, but let's hope it takes a while before the next blunder.