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    sleep still fucked sometimes.

    libido is decent. was able to have sex twice a night past 2 nights...

    mood is amazing not sure if it's the 4 andro addition or because i've been tanning cause we have heat and clear skies over here rn. probably bit of both.

    i have a quiet confidence and lower anxiety that I haven't had for years even before i crashed

    bathing my brain with all these androgens is doing me some good but it's also making me paranoid that I had some sorta hypogonadism because I didn't realize how shitty I felt mentally. mood wise etc. was so grouchy and I thought it was just because I had bad experiences etc. but shows how much of it is biochemical. Then so many people think they know what depression is and that it can easily be shifted by life style changes. when I do more positive lifestyle habits than 90% of people and i'm still often grouchy lol
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    sleep still fucked sometimes.

    libido is decent. was able to have sex twice a night past 2 nights...

    mood is amazing not sure if it's the 4 andro addition or because i've been tanning cause we have heat and clear skies over here rn. probably bit of both.

    i have a quiet confidence and lower anxiety that I haven't had for years even before i crashed

    bathing my brain with all these androgens is doing me some good but it's also making me paranoid that I had some sorta hypogonadism because I didn't realize how shitty I felt mentally. mood wise etc. was so grouchy and I thought it was just because I had bad experiences etc. but shows how much of it is biochemical. Then so many people think they know what depression is and that it can easily be shifted by life style changes. when I do more positive lifestyle habits than 90% of people and i'm still often grouchy lol
    I can say pretty confidently as well as your are doing that sleep disturbances you are having are probably unrelated to PFS stuff
    Its only work until its routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    I can say pretty confidently as well as your are doing that sleep disturbances you are having are probably unrelated to PFS stuff
    I'm almost certain it's from pfs though. What else could it be? I go to sleep just fine but I wake up sometimes and can't get those last 1-2 cycles of rem. Never had sleep issues before I crashed either. Last night slept pretty good. Bacopa actually helps sleep, using it closer to bed time I think helped.

    thing with sleep is if i'm at 70-80% libido that's good enough for a decent sex life but 70-80% for sleep is pretty brutal lol.

    This is just during down swings though which last about 10 days and upswings 10 and I think i'm about to enter an upswing soon.
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    I'm almost certain it's from pfs though. What else could it be? I go to sleep just fine but I wake up sometimes and can't get those last 1-2 cycles of rem. Never had sleep issues before I crashed either. Last night slept pretty good. Bacopa actually helps sleep, using it closer to bed time I think helped.

    thing with sleep is if i'm at 70-80% libido that's good enough for a decent sex life but 70-80% for sleep is pretty brutal lol.

    This is just during down swings though which last about 10 days and upswings 10 and I think i'm about to enter an upswing soon.
    Thats really strange...my sleep normalized two weeks after crashing, but every other symptom has stayed. Are you doing intermittent fasting, or anything else that lowers your need for sleep, and can therefore disrupt it?

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    I actually find gotu kola much better for sleep if you up the recommended dosage.

    And....I just wanted to let you know jack nap.....I...at 41....fucked a 22 year old last night.......I know you would appreciate it. The last time I saw such a sweet young tight body, was when I was 22.....Being with a young girl at this age is SO much better......lol. You just appreciate it so much more. I don't usually boast about things like this....but it's been so long that I've been with some one so young....she thought I was 30...I told her straight out how old I was.....she didn't care....she was DTF. Hit those weights boys......and don't stop. Huge Ego boost for me.

    And...I LOVE being single.....

    The four andro is awesome for mood....it even says on the botlle alpha male euphuria....or some shit like that.....it just never lasted for me....fortunately I'm running Primordials Andro mass, which is their version of 4 dhea....it also has Andro hard in it......loving this cycle....

    I'm pretty sure you're sleep IS related to PFS.....it was one of my sticking points.....it will get better....
    NICE! Was this from tinder??

    I went the other direction recently lol. I'm 25 and got with a lady that was 34 definitely a confidence boost for me as well
    Its only work until its routine

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    So you're doing 4andro and randro?

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