Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
You're better off getting the stand alone: Blue Vervain | Total Male Optimization

If trib is bothering you that much, simply don't take it anymore.
Could you tell me how strong is blue vervain? I mean, just giving me an exemple how effective it was for you (just to make me feel calm, sorry). Does it interfere with testosterone?

Yeah I will save tribulus for the future I guess when I feel I’m ready to take it without getting problems, just like coffee.

Cd, which herb do you feel helps us but it’s also sweet, gentle to the body? I mean, I wanted a tribulus that wouldn’t cause insomnia etc.

My friend (Fausto, he is on swolesource) took many herbs, prohormone and got depressed, and he said tribulus was also bad for him too, maybe the most strong herb regarding stimulant effect, giving anxiety etc.